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The Miscellaneous Writings and Speeches of Lord Macaulay, Volume IV.
Thomas Babington Macaulay
LORD MACAULAY'S SPEECHES.
TO HENRY, MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE
THESE SPEECHES ARE DEDICATED BY HIS GRATEFUL AND AFFECTIONATE
FRIEND
THOMAS BABINGTON MACAULAY.
It was most reluctantly that I determined to suspend, during the
last autumn, a work which is the business and the pleasure of my
life, in order to prepare these Speeches for publication; and it
is most reluctantly that I now give them to the world. Even if I
estimated their oratorical merit much more highly than I do, I
should not willingly have revived, in the quiet times in which we
are so happy as to live, the memory of those fierce contentions
in which too many years of my public life were passed. Many
expressions which, when society was convulsed by political
dissensions, and when the foundations of government were shaking,
were heard by an excited audience with sympathy and applause,
may, now that the passions of all parties have subsided, be
thought intemperate and acrimonious. It was especially painful
to me to find myself under the necessity of recalling to my own
recollection, and to the recollection of others, the keen
encounters which took place between the late Sir Robert Peel and
myself. Some parts of the conduct of that eminent man I must
always think deserving of serious blame. But, on a calm review
of his long and chequered public life, I acknowledge, with
sincere pleasure, that his faults were much more than redeemed by
great virtues, great sacrifices, and great services. My
political hostility to him was never in the smallest degree
tainted by personal ill-will. After his fall from power a
cordial reconciliation took place between us: I admired the
wisdom, the moderation, the disinterested patriotism, which he
invariably showed during the last and best years of his life; I
lamented his untimely death, as both a private and a public
calamity; and I earnestly wished that the sharp words which had
sometimes been exchanged between us might be forgotten.
Unhappily an act, for which the law affords no redress, but which
I have no hesitation in pronouncing to be a gross injury to me
and a gross fraud on the public, has compelled me to do what I
should never have done willingly. A bookseller, named Vizetelly,
who seems to aspire to that sort of distinction which Curll
enjoyed a hundred and twenty years ago, thought fit, without
asking my consent, without even giving me any notice, to announce
an edition of my Speeches, and was not ashamed to tell the world
in his advertisement that he published them by special license.
When the book appeared, I found that it contained fifty-six
speeches, said to have been delivered by me in the House of
Commons. Of these speeches a few were reprinted from reports
which I had corrected for the Mirror of Parliament or the
Parliamentary Debates, and were therefore, with the exception of
some errors of the pen and the press, correctly given. The rest
bear scarcely the faintest resemblance to the speeches which I
really made. The substance of what I said is perpetually
misrepresented. The connection of the arguments is altogether
lost. Extravagant blunders are put into my mouth in almost every
page. An editor who was not grossly ignorant would have
perceived that no person to whom the House of Commons would
listen could possibly have been guilty of such blunders. An
editor who had the smallest regard for truth, or for the fame of
the person whose speeches he had undertaken to publish, would
have had recourse to the various sources of information which
were readily accessible, and, by collating them, would have
produced a book which would at least have contained no absolute
nonsense. But I have unfortunately had an editor whose only
object was to make a few pounds, and who was willing to sacrifice
to that object my reputation and his own. He took the very worst
report extant, compared it with no other report, removed no
blemish however obvious or however ludicrous, gave to the world
some hundreds of pages utterly contemptible both in matter and
manner, and prefixed my name to them. The least that he should
have done was to consult the files of The Times newspaper. I
have frequently done so, when I have noticed in his book any
passage more than ordinarily absurd; and I have almost invariably
found that in The Times newspaper, my meaning had been correctly
reported, though often in words different from those which I had
used.
I could fill a volume with instances of the injustice with which
I have been treated. But I will confine myself to a single
speech, the speech on the Dissenters' Chapels Bill. I have
selected that speech, not because Mr Vizetelly's version of that
speech is worse than his versions of thirty or forty other
speeches, but because I have before me a report of that speech
which an honest and diligent editor would have thought it his
first duty to consult. The report of which I speak was published
by the Unitarian Dissenters, who were naturally desirous that
there should be an accurate record of what had passed in a debate
deeply interesting to them. It was not corrected by me: but it
generally, though not uniformly, exhibits with fidelity the
substance of what I said.
Mr Vizetelly makes me say that the principle of our Statutes of
Limitation was to be found in the legislation of the Mexicans and
Peruvians. That is a matter about which, as I know nothing, I
certainly said nothing. Neither in The Times nor in the
Unitarian report is there anything about Mexico or Peru.
Mr Vizetelly next makes me say that the principle of limitation
is found "amongst the Pandects of the Benares." Did my editor
believe that I uttered these words, and that the House of Commons
listened patiently to them? If he did, what must be thought of
his understanding? If he did not, was it the part of an honest
man to publish such gibberish as mine? The most charitable
supposition, which I therefore gladly adopt, is that Mr Vizetelly
saw nothing absurd in the expression which he has attributed to
me. The Benares he probably supposes to be some Oriental nation.
What he supposes their Pandects to be I shall not presume to
guess. If he had examined The Times, he would have found no
trace of the passage. The reporter, probably, did not catch what
I said, and, being more veracious than Mr Vizetelly, did not
choose to ascribe to me what I did not say. If Mr Vizetelly had
consulted the Unitarian report, he would have seen that I spoke
of the Pundits of Benares; and he might, without any very long or
costly research, have learned where Benares is, and what a Pundit
is.
Mr Vizetelly then represents me as giving the House of Commons
some very extraordinary information about both the Calvinistic
and the Arminian Methodists. He makes me say that Whitfield held
and taught that the connection between Church and State was
sinful. Whitfield never held or taught any such thing; nor was I
so grossly ignorant of the life and character of that remarkable
man as to impute to him a doctrine which he would have abhorred.
Here again, both in The Times and in the Unitarian report, the
substance of what I said is correctly given.
Mr Vizetelly proceeds to put into my mouth a curious account of
the polity of the Wesleyan Methodists. He makes me say that,
after John Wesley's death, "the feeling in favour of the lay
administration of the Sacrament became very strong and very
general: a Conference was applied for, was constituted, and,
after some discussion, it was determined that the request should
be granted." Such folly could have been uttered only by a person
profoundly ignorant of the history of Methodism. Certainly
nothing of the sort was ever uttered by me; and nothing of the
sort will be found either in The Times or in the Unitarian
report.
Mr Vizetelly makes me say that the Great Charter recognises the
principle of limitation, a thing which everybody who has read the
Great Charter knows not to be true. He makes me give an utterly
false history of Lord Nottingham's Occasional Conformity Bill.
But I will not weary my readers by proceeding further. These
samples will probably be thought sufficient. They all lie within
a compass of seven or eight pages. It will be observed that all
the faults which I have pointed out are grave faults of
substance. Slighter faults of substance are numerous. As to
faults of syntax and of style, hardly one sentence in a hundred
is free from them.
I cannot permit myself to be exhibited, in this ridiculous and
degrading manner, for the profit of an unprincipled man. I
therefore unwillingly, and in mere self-defence, give this volume
to the public. I have selected, to the best of my judgment, from
among my speeches, those which are the least unworthy to be
preserved. Nine of them were corrected by me while they were
still fresh in my memory, and appear almost word for word as they
were spoken. They are the speech of the second of March 1831,
the speech of the twentieth of September 1831, the speech of the
tenth of October 1831, the speech of the sixteenth of December
1831, the speech on the Anatomy Bill, the speech on the India
Bill, the speech on Serjeant Talfourd's Copyright Bill, the
speech on the Sugar Duties, and the speech on the Irish Church.
The substance of the remaining speeches I have given with perfect
ingenuousness. I have not made alterations for the purpose of
saving my own reputation either for consistency or for foresight.
I have not softened down the strong terms in which I formerly
expressed opinions which time and thought may have modified; nor
have I retouched my predictions in order to make them correspond
with subsequent events. Had I represented myself as speaking in
1831, in 1840, or in 1845, as I should speak in 1853, I should
have deprived my book of its chief value. This volume is now at
least a strictly honest record of opinions and reasonings which
were heard with favour by a large part of the Commons of England
at some important conjunctures; and such a record, however low it
may stand in the estimation of the literary critic, cannot but be
of use to the historian.
I do not pretend to give with accuracy the diction of those
speeches which I did not myself correct within a week after they
were delivered. Many expressions, and a few paragraphs, linger
in my memory. But the rest, including much that had been
carefully premeditated, is irrecoverably lost. Nor have I, in
this part of my task, derived much assistance from any report.
My delivery is, I believe, too rapid. Very able shorthand
writers have sometimes complained that they could not follow me,
and have contented themselves with setting down the substance of
what I said. As I am unable to recall the precise words which I
used, I have done my best to put my meaning into words which I
might have used.
I have only, in conclusion, to beg that the readers of this
Preface will pardon an egotism which a great wrong has made
necessary, and which is quite as disagreeable to myself as it can
be to them.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 2D OF MARCH,
1831.
On Tuesday, the first of March, 1831, Lord John Russell moved the
House of Commons for leave to bring in a bill to amend the
representation of the people in England and Wales. The
discussion occupied seven nights. At length, on the morning of
Thursday, the tenth of March, the motion was carried without a
division. The following speech was made on the second night of
the debate.
It is a circumstance, Sir, of happy augury for the motion before
the House, that almost all those who have opposed it have
declared themselves hostile on principle to Parliamentary Reform.
Two Members, I think, have confessed that, though they disapprove
of the plan now submitted to us, they are forced to admit the
necessity of a change in the Representative system. Yet even
those gentleman have used, as far as I have observed, no
arguments which would not apply as strongly to the most moderate
change as to that which has been proposed by His Majesty's
Government. I say, Sir, that I consider this as a circumstance
of happy augury. For what I feared was, not the opposition of
those who are averse to all Reform, but the disunion of
reformers. I knew that, during three months, every reformer had
been employed in conjecturing what the plan of the Government
would be. I knew that every reformer had imagined in his own
mind a scheme differing doubtless in some points from that which
my noble friend, the Paymaster of the Forces, has developed. I
felt therefore great apprehension that one person would be
dissatisfied with one part of the bill, that another person would
be dissatisfied with another part, and that thus our whole
strength would be wasted in internal dissensions. That
apprehension is now at an end. I have seen with delight the
perfect concord which prevails among all who deserve the name of
reformers in this House; and I trust that I may consider it as an
omen of the concord which will prevail among reformers throughout
the country. I will not, Sir, at present express any opinion as
to the details of the bill; but, having during the last twenty-
four hours given the most diligent consideration to its general
principles, I have no hesitation in pronouncing it a wise, noble,
and comprehensive measure, skilfully framed for the healing of
great distempers, for the securing at once of the public
liberties, and of the public repose, and for the reconciling and
knitting together of all the orders of the State.
The honourable Baronet who has just sat down (Sir John Walsh.),
has told us, that the Ministers have attempted to unite two
inconsistent principles in one abortive measure. Those were his
very words. He thinks, if I understand him rightly, that we
ought either to leave the representative system such as it is, or
to make it perfectly symmetrical. I think, Sir, that the
Ministers would have acted unwisely if they had taken either
course. Their principle is plain, rational, and consistent. It
is this, to admit the middle class to a large and direct share in
the representation, without any violent shock to the institutions
of our country. I understand those cheers: but surely the
gentlemen who utter them will allow that the change which will be
made in our institutions by this bill is far less violent than
that which, according to the honourable Baronet, ought to be made
if we make any Reform at all. I praise the Ministers for not
attempting, at the present time, to make the representation
uniform. I praise them for not effacing the old distinction
between the towns and the counties, and for not assigning Members
to districts, according to the American practice, by the Rule of
Three. The Government has, in my opinion, done all that was
necessary for the removing of a great practical evil, and no more
than was necessary.
I consider this, Sir, as a practical question. I rest my opinion
on no general theory of government. I distrust all general
theories of government. I will not positively say, that there is
any form of polity which may not, in some conceivable
circumstances, be the best possible. I believe that there are
societies in which every man may safely be admitted to vote.
Gentlemen may cheer, but such is my opinion. I say, Sir, that
there are countries in which the condition of the labouring
classes is such that they may safely be intrusted with the right
of electing Members of the Legislature. If the labourers of
England were in that state in which I, from my soul, wish to see
them, if employment were always plentiful, wages always high,
food always cheap, if a large family were considered not as an
encumbrance but as a blessing, the principal objections to
Universal Suffrage would, I think, be removed. Universal
Suffrage exists in the United States, without producing any very
frightful consequences; and I do not believe that the people of
those States, or of any part of the world, are in any good
quality naturally superior to our own countrymen. But,
unhappily, the labouring classes in England, and in all old
countries, are occasionally in a state of great distress. Some
of the causes of this distress are, I fear, beyond the control of
the Government. We know what effect distress produces, even on
people more intelligent than the great body of the labouring
classes can possibly be. We know that it makes even wise men
irritable, unreasonable, credulous, eager for immediate relief,
heedless of remote consequences. There is no quackery in
medicine, religion, or politics, which may not impose even on a
powerful mind, when that mind has been disordered by pain or
fear. It is therefore no reflection on the poorer class of
Englishmen, who are not, and who cannot in the nature of things
be, highly educated, to say that distress produces on them its
natural effects, those effects which it would produce on the
Americans, or on any other people, that it blinds their judgment,
that it inflames their passions, that it makes them prone to
believe those who flatter them, and to distrust those who would
serve them. For the sake, therefore, of the whole society, for
the sake of the labouring classes themselves, I hold it to be
clearly expedient that, in a country like this, the right of
suffrage should depend on a pecuniary qualification.
But, Sir, every argument which would induce me to oppose
Universal Suffrage, induces me to support the plan which is now
before us. I am opposed to Universal Suffrage, because I think
that it would produce a destructive revolution. I support this
plan, because I am sure that it is our best security against a
revolution. The noble Paymaster of the Forces hinted, delicately
indeed and remotely, at this subject. He spoke of the danger of
disappointing the expectations of the nation; and for this he was
charged with threatening the House. Sir, in the year 1817, the
late Lord Londonderry proposed a suspension of the Habeas Corpus
Act. On that occasion he told the House that, unless the
measures which he recommended were adopted, the public peace
could not be preserved. Was he accused of threatening the House?
Again, in the year 1819, he proposed the laws known by the name
of the Six Acts. He then told the House that, unless the
executive power were reinforced, all the institutions of the
country would be overturned by popular violence. Was he then
accused of threatening the House? Will any gentleman say that it
is parliamentary and decorous to urge the danger arising from
popular discontent as an argument for severity; but that it is
unparliamentary and indecorous to urge that same danger as an
argument for conciliation? I, Sir, do entertain great
apprehension for the fate of my country. I do in my conscience
believe that, unless the plan proposed, or some similar plan, be
speedily adopted, great and terrible calamities will befall us.
Entertaining this opinion, I think myself bound to state it, not
as a threat, but as a reason. I support this bill because it
will improve our institutions; but I support it also because it
tends to preserve them. That we may exclude those whom it is
necessary to exclude, we must admit those whom it may be safe to
admit. At present we oppose the schemes of revolutionists with
only one half, with only one quarter of our proper force. We
say, and we say justly, that it is not by mere numbers, but by
property and intelligence, that the nation ought to be governed.
Yet, saying this, we exclude from all share in the government
great masses of property and intelligence, great numbers of those
who are most interested in preserving tranquillity, and who know
best how to preserve it. We do more. We drive over to the side
of revolution those whom we shut out from power. Is this a time
when the cause of law and order can spare one of its natural
allies?
My noble friend, the Paymaster of the Forces, happily described
the effect which some parts of our representative system would
produce on the mind of a foreigner, who had heard much of our
freedom and greatness. If, Sir, I wished to make such a
foreigner clearly understand what I consider as the great defects
of our system, I would conduct him through that immense city
which lies to the north of Great Russell Street and Oxford
Street, a city superior in size and in population to the capitals
of many mighty kingdoms; and probably superior in opulence,
intelligence, and general respectability, to any city in the
world. I would conduct him through that interminable succession
of streets and squares, all consisting of well built and well
furnished houses. I would make him observe the brilliancy of the
shops, and the crowd of well-appointed equipages. I would show
him that magnificent circle of palaces which surrounds the
Regent's Park. I would tell him that the rental of this district
was far greater than that of the whole kingdom of Scotland, at
the time of the Union. And then I would tell him that this was
an unrepresented district. It is needless to give any more
instances. It is needless to speak of Manchester, Birmingham,
Leeds, Sheffield, with no representation, or of Edinburgh and
Glasgow with a mock representation. If a property tax were now
imposed on the principle that no person who had less than a
hundred and fifty pounds a year should contribute, I should not
be surprised to find that one half in number and value of the
contributors had no votes at all; and it would, beyond all doubt,
be found that one fiftieth part in number and value of the
contributors had a larger share of the representation than the
other forty-nine fiftieths. This is not government by property.
It is government by certain detached portions and fragments of
property, selected from the rest, and preferred to the rest, on
no rational principle whatever.
To say that such a system is ancient, is no defence. My
honourable friend, the Member for the University of Oxford (Sir
Robert Harry Inglis.), challenges us to show that the
Constitution was ever better than it is. Sir, we are
legislators, not antiquaries. The question for us is, not
whether the Constitution was better formerly, but whether we can
make it better now. In fact, however, the system was not in
ancient times by any means so absurd as it is in our age. One
noble Lord (Lord Stormont.) has to-night told us that the town of
Aldborough, which he represents, was not larger in the time of
Edward the First than it is at present. The line of its walls,
he assures us, may still be traced. It is now built up to that
line. He argues, therefore, that as the founders of our
representative institutions gave members to Aldborough when it
was as small as it now is, those who would disfranchise it on
account of its smallness have no right to say that they are
recurring to the original principle of our representative
institutions. But does the noble Lord remember the change which
has taken place in the country during the last five centuries?
Does he remember how much England has grown in population, while
Aldborough has been standing still? Does he consider, that in
the time of Edward the First, the kingdom did not contain two
millions of inhabitants? It now contains nearly fourteen
millions. A hamlet of the present day would have been a town of
some importance in the time of our early Parliaments. Aldborough
may be absolutely as considerable a place as ever. But compared
with the kingdom, it is much less considerable, by the noble
Lord's own showing, than when it first elected burgesses. My
honourable friend, the Member for the University of Oxford, has
collected numerous instances of the tyranny which the kings and
nobles anciently exercised, both over this House and over the
electors. It is not strange that, in times when nothing was held
sacred, the rights of the people, and of the representatives of
the people, should not have been held sacred. The proceedings
which my honourable friend has mentioned, no more prove that, by
the ancient constitution of the realm, this House ought to be a
tool of the king and of the aristocracy, than the Benevolences
and the Shipmoney prove their own legality, or than those
unjustifiable arrests which took place long after the
ratification of the great Charter and even after the Petition of
Right, prove that the subject was not anciently entitled to his
personal liberty. We talk of the wisdom of our ancestors: and
in one respect at least they were wiser than we. They legislated
for their own times. They looked at the England which was before
them. They did not think it necessary to give twice as many
Members to York as they gave to London, because York had been the
capital of Britain in the time of Constantius Chlorus; and they
would have been amazed indeed if they had foreseen, that a city
of more than a hundred thousand inhabitants would be left without
Representatives in the nineteenth century, merely because it
stood on ground which in the thirteenth century had been occupied
by a few huts. They framed a representative system, which,
though not without defects and irregularities, was well adapted
to the state of England in their time. But a great revolution
took place. The character of the old corporations changed. New
forms of property came into existence. New portions of society
rose into importance. There were in our rural districts rich
cultivators, who were not freeholders. There were in our capital
rich traders, who were not liverymen. Towns shrank into
villages. Villages swelled into cities larger than the London of
the Plantagenets. Unhappily while the natural growth of society
went on, the artificial polity continued unchanged. The ancient
form of the representation remained; and precisely because the
form remained, the spirit departed. Then came that pressure
almost to bursting, the new wine in the old bottles, the new
society under the old institutions. It is now time for us to pay
a decent, a rational, a manly reverence to our ancestors, not by
superstitiously adhering to what they, in other circumstances,
did, but by doing what they, in our circumstances, would have
done. All history is full of revolutions, produced by causes
similar to those which are now operating in England. A portion
of the community which had been of no account expands and becomes
strong. It demands a place in the system, suited, not to its
former weakness, but to its present power. If this is granted,
all is well. If this is refused, then comes the struggle between
the young energy of one class and the ancient privileges of
another. Such was the struggle between the Plebeians and the
Patricians of Rome. Such was the struggle of the Italian allies
for admission to the full rights of Roman citizens. Such was the
struggle of our North American colonies against the mother
country. Such was the struggle which the Third Estate of France
maintained against the aristocracy of birth. Such was the
struggle which the Roman Catholics of Ireland maintained against
the aristocracy of creed. Such is the struggle which the free
people of colour in Jamaica are now maintaining against the
aristocracy of skin. Such, finally, is the struggle which the
middle classes in England are maintaining against an aristocracy
of mere locality, against an aristocracy the principle of which
is to invest a hundred drunken potwallopers in one place, or the
owner of a ruined hovel in another, with powers which are
withheld from cities renowned to the furthest ends of the earth,
for the marvels of their wealth and of their industry.
But these great cities, says my honourable friend the Member for
the University of Oxford, are virtually, though not directly,
represented. Are not the wishes of Manchester, he asks, as much
consulted as those of any town which sends Members to Parliament?
Now, Sir, I do not understand how a power which is salutary when
exercised virtually can be noxious when exercised directly. If
the wishes of Manchester have as much weight with us as they
would have under a system which should give Representatives to
Manchester, how can there be any danger in giving Representatives
to Manchester? A virtual Representative is, I presume, a man who
acts as a direct Representative would act: for surely it would
be absurd to say that a man virtually represents the people of
Manchester, who is in the habit of saying No, when a man directly
representing the people of Manchester would say Aye. The utmost
that can be expected from virtual Representation is that it may
be as good as direct Representation. If so, why not grant direct
Representation to places which, as everybody allows, ought, by
some process or other, to be represented?
If it be said that there is an evil in change as change, I answer
that there is also an evil in discontent as discontent. This,
indeed, is the strongest part of our case. It is said that the
system works well. I deny it. I deny that a system works well,
which the people regard with aversion. We may say here, that it
is a good system and a perfect system. But if any man were to
say so to any six hundred and fifty-eight respectable farmers or
shopkeepers, chosen by lot in any part of England, he would be
hooted down, and laughed to scorn. Are these the feelings with
which any part of the government ought to be regarded? Above
all, are these the feelings with which the popular branch of the
legislature ought to be regarded? It is almost as essential to
the utility of a House of Commons, that it should possess the
confidence of the people, as that it should deserve that
confidence. Unfortunately, that which is in theory the popular
part of our government, is in practice the unpopular part. Who
wishes to dethrone the King? Who wishes to turn the Lords out of
their House? Here and there a crazy radical, whom the boys in
the street point at as he walks along. Who wishes to alter the
constitution of this House? The whole people. It is natural
that it should be so. The House of Commons is, in the language
of Mr Burke, a check, not on the people, but for the people.
While that check is efficient, there is no reason to fear that
the King or the nobles will oppress the people. But if the check
requires checking, how is it to be checked? If the salt shall
lose its savour, wherewith shall we season it? The distrust with
which the nation regards this House may be unjust. But what
then? Can you remove that distrust? That it exists cannot be
denied. That it is an evil cannot be denied. That it is an
increasing evil cannot be denied. One gentleman tells us that it
has been produced by the late events in France and Belgium;
another, that it is the effect of seditious works which have
lately been published. If this feeling be of origin so recent, I
have read history to little purpose. Sir, this alarming
discontent is not the growth of a day or of a year. If there be
any symptoms by which it is possible to distinguish the chronic
diseases of the body politic from its passing inflammations, all
those symptoms exist in the present case. The taint has been
gradually becoming more extensive and more malignant, through the
whole lifetime of two generations. We have tried anodynes. We
have tried cruel operations. What are we to try now? Who
flatters himself that he can turn this feeling back? Does there
remain any argument which escaped the comprehensive intellect of
Mr Burke, or the subtlety of Mr Windham? Does there remain any
species of coercion which was not tried by Mr Pitt and by Lord
Londonderry? We have had laws. We have had blood. New treasons
have been created. The Press has been shackled. The Habeas
Corpus Act has been suspended. Public meetings have been
prohibited. The event has proved that these expedients were mere
palliatives. You are at the end of your palliatives. The evil
remains. It is more formidable than ever. What is to be done?
Under such circumstances, a great plan of reconciliation,
prepared by the Ministers of the Crown, has been brought before
us in a manner which gives additional lustre to a noble name,
inseparably associated during two centuries with the dearest
liberties of the English people. I will not say, that this plan
is in all its details precisely such as I might wish it to be;
but it is founded on a great and a sound principle. It takes
away a vast power from a few. It distributes that power through
the great mass of the middle order. Every man, therefore, who
thinks as I think is bound to stand firmly by Ministers who are
resolved to stand or fall with this measure. Were I one of them,
I would sooner, infinitely sooner, fall with such a measure than
stand by any other means that ever supported a Cabinet.
My honourable friend, the Member for the University of Oxford,
tells us, that if we pass this law, England will soon be a
republic. The reformed House of Commons will, according to him,
before it has sate ten years, depose the King, and expel the
Lords from their House. Sir, if my honourable friend could prove
this, he would have succeeded in bringing an argument for
democracy, infinitely stronger than any that is to be found in
the works of Paine. My honourable friend's proposition is in
fact this: that our monarchical and aristocratical institutions
have no hold on the public mind of England; that these
institutions are regarded with aversion by a decided majority of
the middle class. This, Sir, I say, is plainly deducible from
his proposition; for he tells us that the Representatives of the
middle class will inevitably abolish royalty and nobility within
ten years: and there is surely no reason to think that the
Representatives of the middle class will be more inclined to a
democratic revolution than their constituents. Now, Sir, if I
were convinced that the great body of the middle class in England
look with aversion on monarchy and aristocracy, I should be
forced, much against my will, to come to this conclusion, that
monarchical and aristocratical institutions are unsuited to my
country. Monarchy and aristocracy, valuable and useful as I
think them, are still valuable and useful as means, and not as
ends. The end of government is the happiness of the people: and
I do not conceive that, in a country like this, the happiness of
the people can be promoted by a form of government in which the
middle classes place no confidence, and which exists only because
the middle classes have no organ by which to make their
sentiments known. But, Sir, I am fully convinced that the middle
classes sincerely wish to uphold the Royal prerogatives and the
constitutional rights of the Peers. What facts does my
honourable friend produce in support of his opinion? One fact
only; and that a fact which has absolutely nothing to do with the
question. The effect of this Reform, he tells us, would be to
make the House of Commons allpowerful. It was allpowerful once
before, in the beginning of 1649. Then it cut off the head of
the King, and abolished the House of Peers. Therefore, if it
again has the supreme power, it will act in the same manner.
Now, Sir, it was not the House of Commons that cut off the head
of Charles the First; nor was the House of Commons then
allpowerful. It had been greatly reduced in numbers by
successive expulsions. It was under the absolute dominion of the
army. A majority of the House was willing to take the terms
offered by the King. The soldiers turned out the majority; and
the minority, not a sixth part of the whole House, passed those
votes of which my honourable friend speaks, votes of which the
middle classes disapproved then, and of which they disapprove
still.
My honourable friend, and almost all the gentlemen who have taken
the same side with him in this Debate, have dwelt much on the
utility of close and rotten boroughs. It is by means of such
boroughs, they tell us, that the ablest men have been introduced
into Parliament. It is true that many distinguished persons have
represented places of this description. But, Sir, we must judge
of a form of government by its general tendency, not by happy
accidents. Every form of government has its happy accidents.
Despotism has its happy accidents. Yet we are not disposed to
abolish all constitutional checks, to place an absolute master
over us, and to take our chance whether he may be a Caligula or a
Marcus Aurelius. In whatever way the House of Commons may be
chosen, some able men will be chosen in that way who would not be
chosen in any other way. If there were a law that the hundred
tallest men in England should be Members of Parliament, there
would probably be some able men among those who would come into
the House by virtue of this law. If the hundred persons whose
names stand first in the alphabetical list of the Court Guide
were made Members of Parliament, there would probably be able men
among them. We read in ancient history, that a very able king
was elected by the neighing of his horse; but we shall scarcely,
I think, adopt this mode of election. In one of the most
celebrated republics of antiquity, Athens, Senators and
Magistrates were chosen by lot; and sometimes the lot fell
fortunately. Once, for example, Socrates was in office. A cruel
and unjust proposition was made by a demagogue. Socrates
resisted it at the hazard of his own life. There is no event in
Grecian history more interesting than that memorable resistance.
Yet who would have officers appointed by lot, because the
accident of the lot may have given to a great and good man a
power which he would probably never have attained in any other
way? We must judge, as I said, by the general tendency of a
system. No person can doubt that a House of Commons chosen
freely by the middle classes, will contain many very able men. I
do not say, that precisely the same able men who would find their
way into the present House of Commons will find their way into
the reformed House: but that is not the question. No particular
man is necessary to the State. We may depend on it that, if we
provide the country with popular institutions, those institutions
will provide it with great men.
There is another objection, which, I think, was first raised by
the honourable and learned Member for Newport. (Mr Horace
Twiss.) He tells us that the elective franchise is property;
that to take it away from a man who has not been judicially
convicted of malpractices is robbery; that no crime is proved
against the voters in the close boroughs; that no crime is even
imputed to them in the preamble of the bill; and that therefore
to disfranchise them without compensation would be an act of
revolutionary tyranny. The honourable and learned gentleman has
compared the conduct of the present Ministers to that of those
odious tools of power, who, towards the close of the reign of
Charles the Second, seized the charters of the Whig corporations.
Now, there was another precedent, which I wonder that he did not
recollect, both because it is much more nearly in point than that
to which he referred, and because my noble friend, the Paymaster
of the Forces, had previously alluded to it. If the elective
franchise is property, if to disfranchise voters without a crime
proved, or a compensation given, be robbery, was there ever such
an act of robbery as the disfranchising of the Irish forty-
shilling freeholders? Was any pecuniary compensation given to
them? Is it declared in the preamble of the bill which took away
their franchise, that they had been convicted of any offence?
Was any judicial inquiry instituted into their conduct? Were
they even accused of any crime? Or if you say that it was a
crime in the electors of Clare to vote for the honourable and
learned gentleman who now represents the county of Waterford, was
a Protestant freeholder in Louth to be punished for the crime of
a Catholic freeholder in Clare? If the principle of the
honourable and learned Member for Newport be sound, the franchise
of the Irish peasant was property. That franchise the Ministers
under whom the honourable and learned Member held office did not
scruple to take away. Will he accuse those Ministers of robbery?
If not, how can he bring such an accusation against their
successors?
Every gentleman, I think, who has spoken from the other side of
the House, has alluded to the opinions which some of His
Majesty's Ministers formerly entertained on the subject of
Reform. It would be officious in me, Sir, to undertake the
defence of gentlemen who are so well able to defend themselves.
I will only say that, in my opinion, the country will not think
worse either of their capacity or of their patriotism, because
they have shown that they can profit by experience, because they
have learned to see the folly of delaying inevitable changes.
There are others who ought to have learned the same lesson. I
say, Sir, that there are those who, I should have thought, must
have had enough to last them all their lives of that humiliation
which follows obstinate and boastful resistance to changes
rendered necessary by the progress of society, and by the
development of the human mind. Is it possible that those persons
can wish again to occupy a position which can neither be defended
nor surrendered with honour? I well remember, Sir, a certain
evening in the month of May, 1827. I had not then the honour of
a seat in this House; but I was an attentive observer of its
proceedings. The right honourable Baronet opposite (Sir Robert
Peel), of whom personally I desire to speak with that high
respect which I feel for his talents and his character, but of
whose public conduct I must speak with the sincerity required by
my public duty, was then, as he is now, out of office. He had
just resigned the seals of the Home Department, because he
conceived that the recent ministerial arrangements had been too
favourable to the Catholic claims. He rose to ask whether it was
the intention of the new Cabinet to repeal the Test and
Corporation Acts, and to reform the Parliament. He bound up, I
well remember, those two questions together; and he declared
that, if the Ministers should either attempt to repeal the Test
and Corporation Acts, or bring forward a measure of Parliamentary
Reform, he should think it his duty to oppose them to the utmost.
Since that declaration was made four years have elapsed; and what
is now the state of the three questions which then chiefly
agitated the minds of men? What is become of the Test and
Corporation Acts? They are repealed. By whom? By the right
honourable Baronet. What has become of the Catholic
disabilities? They are removed. By whom? By the right
honourable Baronet. The question of Parliamentary Reform is
still behind. But signs, of which it is impossible to
misconceive the import, do most clearly indicate that unless that
question also be speedily settled, property, and order, and all
the institutions of this great monarchy, will be exposed to
fearful peril. Is it possible that gentlemen long versed in high
political affairs cannot read these signs? Is it possible that
they can really believe that the Representative system of
England, such as it now is, will last to the year 1860? If not,
for what would they have us wait? Would they have us wait merely
that we may show to all the world how little we have profited by
our own recent experience?--Would they have us wait, that we may
once again hit the exact point where we can neither refuse with
authority, nor concede with grace? Would they have us wait, that
the numbers of the discontented party may become larger, its
demands higher, its feelings more acrimonious, its organisation
more complete? Would they have us wait till the whole
tragicomedy of 1827 has been acted over again? till they have
been brought into office by a cry of 'No Reform,' to be
reformers, as they were once before brought into office by a cry
of 'No Popery,' to be emancipators? Have they obliterated from
their minds--gladly, perhaps, would some among them obliterate
from their minds--the transactions of that year? And have they
forgotten all the transactions of the succeeding year? Have they
forgotten how the spirit of liberty in Ireland, debarred from its
natural outlet, found a vent by forbidden passages? Have they
forgotten how we were forced to indulge the Catholics in all the
license of rebels, merely because we chose to withhold from them
the liberties of subjects? Do they wait for associations more
formidable than that of the Corn Exchange, for contributions
larger than the Rent, for agitators more violent than those who,
three years ago, divided with the King and the Parliament the
sovereignty of Ireland? Do they wait for that last and most
dreadful paroxysm of popular rage, for that last and most cruel
test of military fidelity? Let them wait, if their past
experience shall induce them to think that any high honour or any
exquisite pleasure is to be obtained by a policy like this. Let
them wait, if this strange and fearful infatuation be indeed upon
them, that they should not see with their eyes, or hear with
their ears, or understand with their heart. But let us know our
interest and our duty better. Turn where we may, within, around,
the voice of great events is proclaiming to us, Reform, that you
may preserve. Now, therefore, while everything at home and
abroad forebodes ruin to those who persist in a hopeless struggle
against the spirit of the age, now, while the crash of the
proudest throne of the Continent is still resounding in our ears,
now, while the roof of a British palace affords an ignominious
shelter to the exiled heir of forty kings, now, while we see on
every side ancient institutions subverted, and great societies
dissolved, now, while the heart of England is still sound, now,
while old feelings and old associations retain a power and a
charm which may too soon pass away, now, in this your accepted
time, now, in this your day of salvation, take counsel, not of
prejudice, not of party spirit, not of the ignominious pride of a
fatal consistency, but of history, of reason, of the ages which
are past, of the signs of this most portentous time. Pronounce
in a manner worthy of the expectation with which this great
debate has been anticipated, and of the long remembrance which it
will leave behind. Renew the youth of the State. Save property,
divided against itself. Save the multitude, endangered by its
own unpopular power. Save the greatest, and fairest, and most
highly civilised community that ever existed, from calamities
which may in a few days sweep away all the rich heritage of so
many ages of wisdom and glory. The danger is terrible. The time
is short. If this bill should be rejected, I pray to God that
none of those who concur in rejecting it may ever remember their
votes with unavailing remorse, amidst the wreck of laws, the
confusion of ranks, the spoliation of property, and the
dissolution of social order.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 5TH OF JULY
1831.
On Tuesday, the fourth of July, 1831, Lord John Russell moved the
second reading of the Bill to amend the representation of the
people in England and Wales. Sir John Walsh, member for Sudbury,
moved, as an amendment, that the bill should be read that day six
months. After a discussion, which lasted three nights, the
amendment was rejected by 367 votes to 231, and the original
motion was carried. The following Speech was made on the second
night of the debate.
Nobody, Sir, who has watched the course of the debate can have
failed to observe that the gentlemen who oppose this bill have
chiefly relied on a preliminary objection, which it is necessary
to clear away before we proceed to examine whether the proposed
changes in our representative system would or would not be
improvements. The elective franchise, we are told, is private
property. It belongs to this freeman, to that potwalloper, to
the owner of this house, to the owner of that old wall; and you
have no more right to take it away without compensation than to
confiscate the dividends of a fundholder or the rents of a
landholder.
Now, Sir, I admit that, if this objection be well founded, it is
decisive against the plan of Reform which has been submitted to
us. If the franchise be really private property, we have no more
right to take members away from Gatton because Gatton is small,
and to give them to Manchester because Manchester is large, than
Cyrus, in the old story, had to take away the big coat from the
little boy and to put it on the big boy. In no case, and under
no pretext however specious, would I take away from any member of
the community anything which is of the nature of property,
without giving him full compensation. But I deny that the
elective franchise is of the nature of property; and I believe
that, on this point, I have with me all reason, all precedent,
and all authority. This at least is certain, that, if
disfranchisement really be robbery, the representative system
which now exists is founded on robbery. How was the franchise in
the English counties fixed? By the act of Henry the Sixth, which
disfranchised tens of thousands of electors who had not forty
shilling freeholds. Was that robbery? How was the franchise in
the Irish counties fixed? By the act of George the Fourth, which
disfranchised tens of thousands of electors who had not ten pound
freeholds. Was that robbery? Or was the great parliamentary
reform made by Oliver Cromwell ever designated as robbery, even
by those who most abhorred his name? Everybody knows that the
unsparing manner in which he disfranchised small boroughs was
emulously applauded, by royalists, who hated him for having
pulled down one dynasty, and by republicans, who hated him for
having founded another. Take Sir Harry Vane and Lord Clarendon,
both wise men, both, I believe, in the main, honest men, but as
much opposed to each other in politics as wise and honest men
could be. Both detested Oliver; yet both approved of Oliver's
plan of parliamentary reform. They grieved only that so salutary
a change should have been made by an usurper. Vane wished it to
have been made by the Rump; Clarendon wished it to be made by the
King. Clarendon's language on this subject is most remarkable.
For he was no rash innovator. The bias of his mind was
altogether on the side of antiquity and prescription. Yet he
describes that great disfranchisement of boroughs as an
improvement fit to be made in a more warrantable method and at a
better time. This is that better time. What Cromwell attempted
to effect by an usurped authority, in a country which had lately
been convulsed by civil war, and which was with difficulty kept
in a state of sullen tranquillity by military force, it has
fallen to our lot to accomplish in profound peace, and under the
rule of a prince whose title is unquestioned, whose office is
reverenced, and whose person is beloved. It is easy to conceive
with what scorn and astonishment Clarendon would have heard it
said that the reform which seemed to him so obviously just and
reasonable that he praised it, even when made by a regicide,
could not, without the grossest iniquity, be made even by a
lawful King and a lawful Parliament.
Sir, in the name of the institution of property, of that great
institution, for the sake of which, chiefly, all other
institutions exist, of that great institution to which we owe all
knowledge, all commerce, all industry, all civilisation, all that
makes us to differ from the tattooed savages of the Pacific
Ocean, I protest against the pernicious practice of ascribing to
that which is not property the sanctity which belongs to property
alone. If, in order to save political abuses from that fate with
which they are threatened by the public hatred, you claim for
them the immunities of property, you must expect that property
will be regarded with some portion of the hatred which is excited
by political abuses. You bind up two very different things, in
the hope that they may stand together. Take heed that they do
not fall together. You tell the people that it is as unjust to
disfranchise a great lord's nomination borough as to confiscate
his estate. Take heed that you do not succeed in convincing weak
and ignorant minds that there is no more injustice in
confiscating his estate than in disfranchising his borough. That
this is no imaginary danger, your own speeches in this debate
abundantly prove. You begin by ascribing to the franchises of
Old Sarum the sacredness of property; and you end, naturally
enough, I must own, by treating the rights of property as lightly
as I should be inclined to treat the franchises of Old Sarum.
When you are reminded that you voted, only two years ago, for
disfranchising great numbers of freeholders in Ireland, and when
you are asked how, on the principles which you now profess, you
can justify that vote, you answer very coolly, "no doubt that was
confiscation. No doubt we took away from the peasants of Munster
and Connaught, without giving them a farthing of compensation,
that which was as much their property as their pigs or their
frieze coats. But we did it for the public good. We were
pressed by a great State necessity." Sir, if that be an answer,
we too may plead that we too have the public good in view, and
that we are pressed by a great State necessity. But I shall
resort to no such plea. It fills me with indignation and alarm
to hear grave men avow what they own to be downright robbery, and
justify that robbery on the ground of political convenience. No,
Sir, there is one way, and only one way, in which those gentlemen
who voted for the disfranchising Act of 1829 can clear their
fame. Either they have no defence, or their defence must be
this; that the elective franchise is not of the nature of
property, and that therefore disfranchisement is not spoliation.
Having disposed, as I think, of the question of right, I come to
the question of expediency. I listened, Sir, with much interest
and pleasure to a noble Lord who spoke for the first time in this
debate. (Lord Porchester.) But I must own that he did not
succeed in convincing me that there is any real ground for the
fears by which he is tormented. He gave us a history of France
since the Restoration. He told us of the violent ebbs and flows
of public feeling in that country. He told us that the
revolutionary party was fast rising to ascendency while M. De
Cazes was minister; that then came a violent reaction in favour
of the monarchy and the priesthood; that then the revolutionary
party again became dominant; that there had been a change of
dynasty; and that the Chamber of Peers had ceased to be a
hereditary body. He then predicted, if I understood him rightly,
that, if we pass this bill, we shall suffer all that France has
suffered; that we shall have violent contests between extreme
parties, a revolution, and an abolition of the House of Lords. I
might, perhaps, dispute the accuracy of some parts of the noble
Lord's narrative. But I deny that his narrative, accurate or
inaccurate, is relevant. I deny that there is any analogy
between the state of France and the state of England. I deny
that there is here any great party which answers either to the
revolutionary or to the counter-revolutionary party in France. I
most emphatically deny that there is any resemblance in the
character, and that there is likely to be any resemblance in the
fate, of the two Houses of Peers. I always regarded the
hereditary Chamber established by Louis the Eighteenth as an
institution which could not last. It was not in harmony with the
state of property; it was not in harmony with the public feeling;
it had neither the strength which is derived from wealth, nor the
strength which is derived from prescription. It was despised as
plebeian by the ancient nobility. It was hated as patrician by
the democrats. It belonged neither to the old France nor to the
new France. It was a mere exotic transplanted from our island.
Here it had struck its roots deep, and having stood during ages,
was still green and vigorous. But it languished in the foreign
soil and the foreign air, and was blown down by the first storm.
It will be no such easy task to uproot the aristocracy of
England.
With much more force, at least with much more plausibility, the
noble Lord and several other members on the other side of the
House have argued against the proposed Reform on the ground that
the existing system has worked well. How great a country, they
say, is ours! How eminent in wealth and knowledge, in arts and
arms! How much admired! How much envied! Is it possible to
believe that we have become what we are under a bad government!
And, if we have a good government, why alter it? Now, Sir, I am
very far from denying that England is great, and prosperous, and
highly civilised. I am equally far from denying that she owes
much of her greatness, of her prosperity, and of her civilisation
to her form of government. But is no nation ever to reform its
institutions because it has made great progress under those
institutions? Why, Sir, the progress is the very thing which
makes the reform absolutely necessary. The Czar Peter, we all
know, did much for Russia. But for his rude genius and energy,
that country might have still been utterly barbarous. Yet would
it be reasonable to say that the Russian people ought always, to
the end of time, to be despotically governed, because the Czar
Peter was a despot? Let us remember that the government and the
society act and react on each other. Sometimes the government is
in advance of the society, and hurries the society forward. So
urged, the society gains on the government, comes up with the
government, outstrips the government, and begins to insist that
the government shall make more speed. If the government is wise,
it will yield to that just and natural demand. The great cause
of revolutions is this, that while nations move onward,
constitutions stand still. The peculiar happiness of England is
that here, through many generations, the constitution has moved
onward with the nation. Gentlemen have told us, that the most
illustrious foreigners have, in every age, spoken with admiration
of the English constitution. Comines, they say, in the fifteenth
century, extolled the English constitution as the best in the
world. Montesquieu, in the eighteenth century, extolled it as
the best in the world. And would it not be madness in us to
throw away what such men thought the most precious of all our
blessings? But was the constitution which Montesquieu praised
the same with the constitution which Comines praised? No, Sir;
if it had been so, Montesquieu never would have praised it. For
how was it possible that a polity which exactly suited the
subjects of Edward the Fourth should have exactly suited the
subjects of George the Second? The English have, it is true,
long been a great and a happy people. But they have been great
and happy because their history has been the history of a
succession of timely reforms. The Great Charter, the assembling
of the first House of Commons, the Petition of Right, the
Declaration of Right, the Bill which is now on our table, what
are they all but steps in one great progress? To every one of
those steps the same objections might have been made which we
heard to-night, "You are better off than your neighbours are.
You are better off than your fathers were. Why can you not leave
well alone?"
How copiously might a Jacobite orator have harangued on this
topic in the Convention of 1688! "Why make a change of dynasty?
Why trouble ourselves to devise new securities for our laws and
liberties? See what a nation we are. See how population and
wealth have increased since what you call the good old times of
Queen Elizabeth. You cannot deny that the country has been more
prosperous under the kings of the House of Stuart than under any
of their predecessors. Keep that House, then, and be thankful."
Just such is the reasoning of the opponents of this bill. They
tell us that we are an ungrateful people, and that, under
institutions from which we have derived inestimable benefits, we
are more discontented than the slaves of the Dey of Tripoli.
Sir, if we had been slaves of the Dey of Tripoli, we should have
been too much sunk in intellectual and moral degradation to be
capable of the rational and manly discontent of freemen. It is
precisely because our institutions are so good that we are not
perfectly contended with them; for they have educated us into a
capacity for enjoying still better institutions. That the
English Government has generally been in advance of almost all
other governments is true. But it is equally true that the
English nation is, and has during some time been, in advance of
the English Government. One plain proof of this is, that nothing
is so ill made in our island as the laws. In all those things
which depend on the intelligence, the knowledge, the industry,
the energy of individuals, or of voluntary combinations of
individuals, this country stands pre-eminent among all the
countries of the world, ancient and modern. But in those things
which it belongs to the State to direct, we have no such claim to
superiority. Our fields are cultivated with a skill unknown
elsewhere, with a skill which has extorted rich harvests from
moors and morasses. Our houses are filled with conveniences
which the kings of former times might have envied. Our bridges,
our canals, our roads, our modes of communication, fill every
stranger with wonder. Nowhere are manufactures carried to such
perfection. Nowhere is so vast a mass of mechanical power
collected. Nowhere does man exercise such a dominion over
matter. These are the works of the nation. Compare them with
the works of the rulers of the nation. Look at the criminal law,
at the civil law, at the modes of conveying lands, at the modes
of conducting actions. It is by these things that we must judge
of our legislators, just as we judge of our manufacturers by the
cotton goods and the cutlery which they produce, just as we judge
of our engineers by the suspension bridges, the tunnels, the
steam carriages which they construct. Is, then, the machinery by
which justice is administered framed with the same exquisite
skill which is found in other kinds of machinery? Can there be a
stronger contrast than that which exists between the beauty, the
completeness, the speed, the precision with which every process
is performed in our factories, and the awkwardness, the rudeness,
the slowness, the uncertainty of the apparatus by which offences
are punished and rights vindicated? Look at the series of penal
statutes, the most bloody and the most inefficient in the world,
at the puerile fictions which make every declaration and every
plea unintelligible both to plaintiff and defendant, at the
mummery of fines and recoveries, at the chaos of precedents, at
the bottomless pit of Chancery. Surely we see the barbarism of
the thirteenth century and the highest civilisation of the
nineteenth century side by side; and we see that the barbarism
belongs to the government, and the civilisation to the people.
This is a state of things which cannot last. If it be not
terminated by wisdom, it will be terminated by violence. A time
has come at which it is not merely desirable, but indispensable
to the public safety, that the government should be brought into
harmony with the people; and it is because this bill seems to me
likely to bring the government into harmony with the people, that
I feel it to be my duty to give my hearty support to His
Majesty's Ministers.
We have been told, indeed, that this is not the plan of Reform
which the nation asked for. Be it so. But you cannot deny that
it is the plan of Reform which the nation has accepted. That,
though differing in many respects from what was asked, it has
been accepted with transports of joy and gratitude, is a decisive
proof of the wisdom of timely concession. Never in the history
of the world was there so signal an example of that true
statesmanship, which, at once animating and gently curbing the
honest enthusiasm of millions, guides it safely and steadily to a
happy goal. It is not strange, that when men are refused what is
reasonable, they should demand what is unreasonable. It is not
strange that, when they find that their opinion is contemned and
neglected by the Legislature, they should lend a too favourable
ear to worthless agitators. We have seen how discontent may be
produced. We have seen, too, how it may be appeased. We have
seen that the true source of the power of demagogues is the
obstinacy of rulers, and that a liberal Government makes a
conservative people. Early in the last session, the First
Minister of the Crown declared that he would consent to no
Reform; that he thought our representative system, just as it
stood, the masterpiece of human wisdom; that, if he had to make
it anew, he would make it such as it was, with all its
represented ruins and all its unrepresented cities. What
followed? Everything was tumult and panic. The funds fell. The
streets were insecure. Men's hearts failed them for fear. We
began to move our property into German investments and American
investments. Such was the state of the public mind, that it was
not thought safe to let the Sovereign pass from his palace to the
Guildhall of his capital. What part of his kingdom is there in
which His Majesty now needs any other guard than the affection of
his loving subjects? There are, indeed, still malecontents; and
they may be divided into two classes, the friends of corruption
and the sowers of sedition. It is natural that all who directly
profit by abuses, and all who profit by the disaffection which
abuses excite, should be leagued together against a bill which,
by making the government pure, will make the nation loyal. There
is, and always has been, a real alliance between the two extreme
parties in this country. They play into each other's hands.
They live by each other. Neither would have any influence if the
other were taken away. The demagogue would have no audience but
for the indignation excited among the multitude by the insolence
of the enemies of Reform: and the last hope of the enemies of
Reform is in the uneasiness excited among all who have anything
to lose by the ravings of the demagogue. I see, and glad I am to
see, that the nation perfectly understands and justly appreciates
this coalition between those who hate all liberty and those who
hate all order. England has spoken, and spoken out. From her
most opulent seaports, from her manufacturing towns, from her
capital and its gigantic suburbs, from almost every one of her
counties, has gone forth a voice, answering in no doubtful or
faltering accent to that truly royal voice which appealed on the
twenty-second of last April to the sense of the nation.
So clearly, indeed, has the sense of the nation been expressed,
that scarcely any person now ventures to declare himself hostile
to all Reform. We are, it seems, a House of Reformers. Those
very gentlemen who, a few months ago, were vehement against all
change, now own that some change may be proper, may be necessary.
They assure us that their opposition is directed, not against
Parliamentary Reform, but against the particular plan which is
now before us, and that a Tory Ministry would devise a much
better plan. I cannot but think that these tactics are
unskilful. I cannot but think that, when our opponents defended
the existing system in every part, they occupied a stronger
position than at present. As my noble friend the Paymaster-
General said, they have committed an error resembling that of the
Scotch army at Dunbar. They have left the high ground from which
we might have had some difficulty in dislodging them. They have
come down to low ground, where they are at our mercy. Surely, as
Cromwell said, surely the Lord hath delivered them into our hand.
For, Sir, it is impossible not to perceive that almost every
argument which they have urged against this Reform Bill may be
urged with equal force, or with greater force, against any Reform
Bill which they can themselves bring in.
First take, what, indeed, are not arguments, but wretched
substitutes for arguments, those vague terms of reproach, which
have been so largely employed, here and elsewhere, by our
opponents; revolutionary, anarchical, traitorous, and so forth.
It will, I apprehend, hardly be disputed that these epithets can
be just as easily applied to one Reform Bill as to another.
But, you say, intimidation has been used to promote the passing
of this bill; and it would be disgraceful, and of evil example,
that Parliament should yield to intimidation. But surely, if
that argument be of any force against the present bill, it will
be of tenfold force against any Reform Bill proposed by you. For
this bill is the work of men who are Reformers from conscientious
conviction, of men, some of whom were Reformers when Reformer was
a name of reproach, of men, all of whom were Reformers before the
nation had begun to demand Reform in imperative and menacing
tones. But you are notoriously Reformers merely from fear. You
are Reformers under duress. If a concession is to be made to the
public importunity, you can hardly deny that it will be made with
more grace and dignity by Lord Grey than by you.
Then you complain of the anomalies of the bill. One county, you
say, will have twelve members; and another county, which is
larger and more populous, will have only ten. Some towns, which
are to have only one member, are more considerable than other
towns which are to have two. Do those who make these objections,
objections which by the by will be more in place when the bill is
in committee, seriously mean to say that a Tory Reform Bill will
leave no anomalies in the representative system? For my own
part, I trouble myself not at all about anomalies, considered
merely as anomalies. I would not take the trouble of lifting up
my hand to get rid of an anomaly that was not also a grievance.
But if gentlemen have such a horror of anomalies, it is strange
that they should so long have persisted in upholding a system
made up of anomalies far greater than any that can be found in
this bill (a cry of "No!"). Yes; far greater. Answer me, if you
can; but do not interrupt me. On this point, indeed, it is much
easier to interrupt than to answer. For who can answer plain
arithmetical demonstration? Under the present system,
Manchester, with two hundred thousand inhabitants, has no
members. Old Sarum, with no inhabitants, has two members. Find
me such an anomaly in the schedules which are now on the table.
But is it possible that you, that Tories, can seriously mean to
adopt the only plan which can remove all anomalies from the
representative system? Are you prepared to have, after every
decennial census, a new distribution of members among electoral
districts? Is your plan of Reform that which Mr Canning
satirised as the most crazy of all the projects of the disciples
of Tom Paine? Do you really mean
"That each fair burgh, numerically free,
Shall choose its members by the rule of three?"
If not, let us hear no more of the anomalies of the Reform Bill.
But your great objection to this bill is that it will not be
final. I ask you whether you think that any Reform Bill which
you can frame will be final? For my part I do believe that the
settlement proposed by His Majesty's Ministers will be final, in
the only sense in which a wise man ever uses that word. I
believe that it will last during that time for which alone we
ought at present to think of legislating. Another generation may
find in the new representative system defects such as we find in
the old representative system. Civilisation will proceed.
Wealth will increase. Industry and trade will find out new
seats. The same causes which have turned so many villages into
great towns, which have turned so many thousands of square miles
of fir and heath into cornfields and orchards, will continue to
operate. Who can say that a hundred years hence there may not
be, on the shore of some desolate and silent bay in the Hebrides,
another Liverpool, with its docks and warehouses and endless
forests of masts? Who can say that the huge chimneys of another
Manchester may not rise in the wilds of Connemara? For our
children we do not pretend to legislate. All that we can do for
them is to leave to them a memorable example of the manner in
which great reforms ought to be made. In the only sense,
therefore, in which a statesman ought to say that anything is
final, I pronounce this bill final. But in what sense will your
bill be final? Suppose that you could defeat the Ministers, that
you could displace them, that you could form a Government, that
you could obtain a majority in this House, what course would
events take? There is no difficulty in foreseeing the stages of
the rapid progress downward. First we should have a mock reform;
a Bassietlaw reform; a reform worthy of those politicians who,
when a delinquent borough had forfeited its franchise, and when
it was necessary for them to determine what they would do with
two seats in Parliament, deliberately gave those seats, not to
Manchester or Birmingham or Leeds, not to Lancashire or
Staffordshire or Devonshire, but to a constituent body studiously
selected because it was not large and because it was not
independent; a reform worthy of those politicians who, only
twelve months ago, refused to give members to the three greatest
manufacturing towns in the world. We should have a reform which
would produce all the evils and none of the benefits of change,
which would take away from the representative system the
foundation of prescription, and yet would not substitute the
surer foundation of reason and public good. The people would be
at once emboldened and exasperated; emboldened because they would
see that they had frightened the Tories into making a pretence of
reforming the Parliament; and exasperated because they would see
that the Tory Reform was a mere pretence. Then would come
agitation, tumult, political associations, libels, inflammatory
harangues. Coercion would only aggravate the evil. This is no
age, this is no country, for the war of power against opinion.
Those Jacobin mountebanks, whom this bill would at once send back
to their native obscurity, would rise into fearful importance.
The law would be sometimes braved and sometimes evaded. In
short, England would soon be what Ireland was at the beginning of
1829. Then, at length, as in 1829, would come the late and vain
repentance. Then, Sir, amidst the generous cheers of the Whigs,
who will be again occupying their old seats on your left hand,
and amidst the indignant murmurs of those stanch Tories who are
now again trusting to be again betrayed, the right honourable
Baronet opposite will rise from the Treasury Bench to propose
that bill on which the hearts of the people are set. But will
that bill be then accepted with the delight and thankfulness with
which it was received last March? Remember Ireland. Remember
how, in that country, concessions too long delayed were at last
received. That great boon which in 1801, in 1813, in 1825, would
have won the hearts of millions, given too late, and given from
fear, only produced new clamours and new dangers. Is not one
such lesson enough for one generation? A noble Lord opposite
told us not to expect that this bill will have a conciliatory
effect. Recollect, he said, how the French aristocracy
surrendered their privileges in 1789, and how that surrender was
requited. Recollect that Day of Sacrifices which was afterwards
called the Day of Dupes. Sir, that day was afterwards called the
Day of Dupes, not because it was the Day of Sacrifices, but
because it was the Day of Sacrifices too long deferred. It was
because the French aristocracy resisted reform in 1783, that they
were unable to resist revolution in 1789. It was because they
clung too long to odious exemptions and distinctions, that they
were at last unable to serve their lands, their mansions, their
heads. They would not endure Turgot: and they had to endure
Robespierre.
I am far indeed from wishing that the Members of this House
should be influenced by fear in the bad and unworthy sense of
that word. But there is an honest and honourable fear, which
well becomes those who are intrusted with the dearest interests
of a great community; and to that fear I am not ashamed to make
an earnest appeal. It is very well to talk of confronting
sedition boldly, and of enforcing the law against those who would
disturb the public peace. No doubt a tumult caused by local and
temporary irritation ought to be suppressed with promptitude and
vigour. Such disturbances, for example, as those which Lord
George Gordon raised in 1780, should be instantly put down with
the strong hand. But woe to the Government which cannot
distinguish between a nation and a mob! Woe to the Government
which thinks that a great, a steady, a long continued movement of
the public mind is to be stopped like a street riot! This error
has been twice fatal to the great House of Bourbon. God be
praised, our rulers have been wiser. The golden opportunity
which, if once suffered to escape, might never have been
retrieved, has been seized. Nothing, I firmly believe, can now
prevent the passing of this noble law, this second Bill of
Rights. ["Murmurs."] Yes, I call it, and the nation calls it,
and our posterity will long call it, this second Bill of Rights,
this Greater Charter of the Liberties of England. The year 1831
will, I trust, exhibit the first example of the manner in which
it behoves a free and enlightened people to purify their polity
from old and deeply seated abuses, without bloodshed, without
violence, without rapine, all points freely debated, all the
forms of senatorial deliberation punctiliously observed, industry
and trade not for a moment interrupted, the authority of law not
for a moment suspended. These are things of which we may well be
proud. These are things which swell the heart up with a good
hope for the destinies of mankind. I cannot but anticipate a
long series of happy years; of years during which a parental
Government will be firmly supported by a grateful nation: of
years during which war, if war should be inevitable, will find us
an united people; of years pre-eminently distinguished by the
progress of arts, by the improvement of laws, by the augmentation
of the public resources, by the diminution of the public burdens,
by all those victories of peace, in which, far more than in any
military successes, consists the true felicity of states, and the
true glory of statesmen. With such hopes, Sir, and such
feelings, I give my cordial assent to the second reading of a
bill which I consider as in itself deserving of the warmest
approbation, and as indispensably necessary, in the present
temper of the public mind, to the repose of the country and to
the stability of the throne.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 20TH OF
SEPTEMBER 1831.
On Monday, the nineteenth of September, 1831, the Bill to amend
the representation of the people in England and Wales was read a
third time, at an early hour and in a thin house, without any
debate. But on the question whether the Bill should pass a
discussion arose which lasted three nights. On the morning of
the twenty-second of September the House divided; and the Bill
passed by 345 votes to 236. The following Speech was made on the
second night of the debate.
It is not without great diffidence, Sir, that I rise to address
you on a subject which has been nearly exhausted. Indeed, I
should not have risen had I not thought that, though the
arguments on this question are for the most part old, our
situation at present is in a great measure new. At length the
Reform Bill, having passed without vital injury through all the
dangers which threatened it, during a long and minute discussion,
from the attacks of its enemies and from the dissensions of its
friends, comes before us for our final ratification, altered,
indeed, in some of its details for the better, and in some for
the worse, but in its great principles still the same bill which,
on the first of March, was proposed to the late Parliament, the
same bill which was received with joy and gratitude by the whole
nation, the same bill which, in an instant, took away the power
of interested agitators, and united in one firm body all the
sects of sincere Reformers, the same bill which, at the late
election, received the approbation of almost every great
constituent body in the empire. With a confidence which
discussion has only strengthened, with an assured hope of great
public blessings if the wish of the nation shall be gratified,
with a deep and solemn apprehension of great public calamities if
that wish shall be disappointed, I, for the last time, give my
most hearty assent to this noble law, destined, I trust, to be
the parent of many good laws, and, through a long series of
years, to secure the repose and promote the prosperity of my
country.
When I say that I expect this bill to promote the prosperity of
the country, I by no means intend to encourage those chimerical
hopes which the honourable and learned Member for Rye (Mr
Pemberton.), who has so much distinguished himself in this
debate, has imputed to the Reformers. The people, he says, are
for the bill, because they expect that it will immediately
relieve all their distresses. Sir, I believe that very few of
that large and respectable class which we are now about to admit
to a share of political power entertain any such absurd
expectation. They expect relief, I doubt not; and I doubt not
that they will find it: but sudden relief they are far too wise
to expect. The bill, says the honourable and learned gentleman,
is good for nothing: it is merely theoretical: it removes no
real and sensible evil: it will not give the people more work,
or higher wages, or cheaper bread. Undoubtedly, Sir, the bill
will not immediately give all those things to the people. But
will any institutions give them all those things? Do the present
institutions of the country secure to them those advantages? If
we are to pronounce the Reform Bill good for nothing, because it
will not at once raise the nation from distress to prosperity,
what are we to say of that system under which the nation has been
of late sinking from prosperity into distress? The defect is not
in the Reform Bill, but in the very nature of government. On the
physical condition of the great body of the people, government
acts not as a specific, but as an alternative. Its operation is
powerful, indeed, and certain, but gradual and indirect. The
business of government is not directly to make the people rich;
and a government which attempts more than this is precisely the
government which is likely to perform less. Governments do not
and cannot support the people. We have no miraculous powers: we
have not the rod of the Hebrew lawgiver: we cannot rain down
bread on the multitude from Heaven: we cannot smite the rock and
give them to drink. We can give them only freedom to employ
their industry to the best advantage, and security in the
enjoyment of what their industry has acquired. These advantages
it is our duty to give at the smallest possible cost. The
diligence and forethought of individuals will thus have fair
play; and it is only by the diligence and forethought of
individuals that the community can become prosperous. I am not
aware that His Majesty's Ministers, or any of the supporters of
this bill, have encouraged the people to hope, that Reform will
remove distress, in any other way than by this indirect process.
By this indirect process the bill will, I feel assured, conduce
to the national prosperity. If it had been passed fifteen years
ago, it would have saved us from our present embarrassments. If
we pass it now, it will gradually extricate us from them. It
will secure to us a House of Commons, which, by preserving peace,
by destroying monopolies, by taking away unnecessary public
burthens, by judiciously distributing necessary public burthens,
will, in the progress of time, greatly improve our condition.
This it will do; and those who blame it for not doing more blame
it for not doing what no Constitution, no code of laws, ever did
or ever will do; what no legislator, who was not an ignorant and
unprincipled quack, ever ventured to promise.
But chimerical as are the hopes which the honourable and learned
Member for Rye imputes to the people, they are not, I think, more
chimerical than the fears which he has himself avowed. Indeed,
those very gentlemen who are constantly telling us that we are
taking a leap in the dark, that we pay no attention to the
lessons of experience, that we are mere theorists, are themselves
the despisers of experience, are themselves the mere theorists.
They are terrified at the thought of admitting into Parliament
members elected by ten pound householders. They have formed in
their own imaginations a most frightful idea of these members.
My honourable and learned friend, the Member for Cockermouth (Sir
James Scarlett.), is certain that these members will take every
opportunity of promoting the interests of the journeyman in
opposition to those of the capitalist. The honourable and
learned Member for Rye is convinced that none but persons who
have strong local connections, will ever be returned for such
constituent bodies. My honourable friend, the Member for
Thetford (Mr Alexander Baring.), tells us, that none but mob
orators, men who are willing to pay the basest court to the
multitude, will have any chance. Other speakers have gone still
further, and have described to us the future borough members as
so many Marats and Santerres, low, fierce, desperate men, who
will turn the House into a bear-garden, and who will try to turn
the monarchy into a republic, mere agitators, without honour,
without sense, without education, without the feelings or the
manners of gentlemen. Whenever, during the course of the
fatiguing discussions by which we have been so long occupied,
there has been a cry of "question," or a noise at the bar, the
orator who has been interrupted has remarked, that such
proceedings will be quite in place in the Reformed Parliament,
but that we ought to remember that the House of Commons is still
an assembly of gentlemen. This, I say, is to set up mere theory,
or rather mere prejudice, in opposition to long and ample
experience. Are the gentlemen who talk thus ignorant that we
have already the means of judging what kind of men the ten pound
householders will send up to parliament? Are they ignorant that
there are even now large towns with very popular franchises, with
franchises even more democratic than those which will be bestowed
by the present bill? Ought they not, on their own principles, to
look at the results of the experiments which have already been
made, instead of predicting frightful calamities at random? How
do the facts which are before us agree with their theories?
Nottingham is a city with a franchise even more democratic than
that which this bill establishes. Does Nottingham send hither
mere vulgar demagogues? It returns two distinguished men, one an
advocate, the other a soldier, both unconnected with the town.
Every man paying scot and lot has a vote at Leicester. This is a
lower franchise than the ten pound franchise. Do we find that
the Members for Leicester are the mere tools of the journeymen?
I was at Leicester during the contest of 1826; and I recollect
that the suffrages of the scot and lot voters were pretty equally
divided between two candidates, neither of them connected with
the place, neither of them a slave of the mob, one a Tory Baronet
from Derbyshire, the other a most respectable and excellent
friend of mine, connected with the manufacturing interest, and
also an inhabitant of Derbyshire. Look at Norwich. Look at
Northampton, with a franchise more democratic than even the scot
and lot franchise. Northampton formerly returned Mr Perceval,
and now returns gentlemen of high respectability, gentlemen who
have a great stake in the prosperity and tranquillity of the
country. Look at the metropolitan districts. This is an a
fortiori case. Nay it is--the expression, I fear, is awkward--an
a fortiori case at two removes. The ten pound householders of
the metropolis are persons in a lower station of life than the
ten pound householders of other towns. The scot and lot
franchise in the metropolis is again lower than the ten pound
franchise. Yet have Westminster and Southwark been in the habit
of sending us members of whom we have had reason to be ashamed,
of whom we have not had reason to be proud? I do not say that
the inhabitants of Westminster and Southwark have always
expressed their political sentiments with proper moderation.
That is not the question. The question is this: what kind of
men have they elected? The very principle of all Representative
government is, that men who do not judge well of public affairs
may be quite competent to choose others who will judge better.
Whom, then, have Westminster and Southwark sent us during the
last fifty years, years full of great events, years of intense
popular excitement? Take any one of those nomination boroughs,
the patrons of which have conscientiously endeavoured to send fit
men into this House. Compare the Members for that borough with
the Members for Westminster and Southwark; and you will have no
doubt to which the preference is due. It is needless to mention
Mr Fox, Mr Sheridan, Mr Tierney, Sir Samuel Romilly. Yet I must
pause at the name of Sir Samuel Romilly. Was he a mob orator?
Was he a servile flatterer of the multitude? Sir, if he had any
fault, if there was any blemish on that most serene and spotless
character, that character which every public man, and especially
every professional man engaged in politics, ought to propose to
himself as a model, it was this, that he despised popularity too
much and too visibly. The honourable Member for Thetford told us
that the honourable and learned Member for Rye, with all his
talents, would have no chance of a seat in the Reformed
Parliament, for want of the qualifications which succeed on the
hustings. Did Sir Samuel Romilly ever appear on the hustings of
Westminster? He never solicited one vote; he never showed
himself to the electors, till he had been returned at the head of
the poll. Even then, as I have heard from one of his nearest
relatives, it was with reluctance that he submitted to be
chaired. He shrank from being made a show. He loved the people,
and he served them; but Coriolanus himself was not less fit to
canvass them. I will mention one other name, that of a man of
whom I have only a childish recollection, but who must have been
intimately known to many of those who hear me, Mr Henry Thornton.
He was a man eminently upright, honourable, and religious, a man
of strong understanding, a man of great political knowledge; but,
in all respects, the very reverse of a mob orator. He was a man
who would not have yielded to what he considered as unreasonable
clamour, I will not say to save his seat, but to save his life.
Yet he continued to represent Southwark, Parliament after
Parliament, for many years. Such has been the conduct of the
scot and lot voters of the metropolis; and there is clearly less
reason to expect democratic violence from ten pound householders
than from scot and lot householders; and from ten pound
householders in the country towns than from ten pound
householders in London. Experience, I say, therefore, is on our
side; and on the side of our opponents nothing but mere
conjecture and mere assertion.
Sir, when this bill was first brought forward, I supported it,
not only on the ground of its intrinsic merits, but, also,
because I was convinced that to reject it would be a course full
of danger. I believe that the danger of that course is in no
respect diminished. I believe, on the contrary, that it is
increased. We are told that there is a reaction. The warmth of
the public feeling, it seems, has abated. In this story both the
sections of the party opposed to Reform are agreed; those who
hate Reform, because it will remove abuses, and those who hate
it, because it will vert anarchy; those who wish to see the
electing body controlled by ejectments, and those who wish to see
it controlled by riots. They must now, I think, be undeceived.
They must have already discovered that the surest way to prevent
a reaction is to talk about it, and that the enthusiasm of the
people is at once rekindled by any indiscreet mention of their
seeming coolness. This, Sir, is not the first reaction which the
sagacity of the Opposition has discovered since the Reform Bill
was brought in. Every gentleman who sat in the late Parliament,
every gentleman who, during the sitting of the late Parliament,
paid attention to political speeches and publications, must
remember how, for some time before the debate on General
Gascoyne's motion, and during the debate on that motion, and down
to the very day of the dissolution, we were told that public
feeling had cooled. The right honourable Baronet, the member for
Tamworth, told us so. All the literary organs of the Opposition,
from the Quarterly Review down to the Morning Post, told us so.
All the Members of the Opposition with whom we conversed in
private told us so. I have in my eye a noble friend of mine, who
assured me, on the very night which preceded the dissolution,
that the people had ceased to be zealous for the Ministerial
plan, and that we were more likely to lose than to gain by the
elections. The appeal was made to the people; and what was the
result? What sign of a reaction appeared among the Livery of
London? What sign of a reaction did the honourable Baronet who
now represents Okehampton find among the freeholders of Cornwall?
(Sir Richard Vyvyan.) How was it with the large represented
towns? Had Liverpool cooled? or Bristol? or Leicester? or
Coventry? or Nottingham? or Norwich? How was it with the great
seats of manufacturing industry, Yorkshire, and Lancashire, and
Staffordshire, and Warwickshire, and Cheshire? How was it with
the agricultural districts, Northumberland and Cumberland,
Leicestershire and Lincolnshire, Kent and Essex, Oxfordshire,
Hampshire, Somersetshire, Dorsetshire, Devonshire? How was it
with the strongholds of aristocratical influence, Newark, and
Stamford, and Hertford, and St Alban's? Never did any people
display, within the limits prescribed by law, so generous a
fervour, or so steadfast a determination, as that very people
whose apparent languor had just before inspired the enemies of
Reform with a delusive hope.
Such was the end of the reaction of April; and, if that lesson
shall not profit those to whom it was given, such and yet more
signal will be the end of the reaction of September. The two
cases are strictly analogous. In both cases the people were
eager when they believed the bill to be in danger, and quiet when
they believed it to be in security. During the three or four
weeks which followed the promulgation of the Ministerial plan,
all was joy, and gratitude, and vigorous exertion. Everywhere
meetings were held: everywhere resolutions were passed: from
every quarter were sent up petitions to this House, and addresses
to the Throne: and then the nation, having given vent to its
first feelings of delight, having clearly and strongly expressed
its opinions, having seen the principle of the bill adopted by
the House of Commons on the second reading, became composed, and
awaited the result with a tranquillity which the Opposition
mistook for indifference. All at once the aspect of affairs
changed. General Gascoyne's amendment was carried: the bill was
again in danger: exertions were again necessary. Then was it
well seen whether the calmness of the public mind was any
indication of indifference. The depth and sincerity of the
prevailing sentiments were proved, not by mere talking, but by
actions, by votes, by sacrifices. Intimidation was defied:
expenses were rejected: old ties were broken: the people
struggled manfully: they triumphed gloriously: they placed the
bill in perfect security, as far as this house was concerned; and
they returned to their repose. They are now, as they were on the
eve of General Gascoyne's motion, awaiting the issue of the
deliberations of Parliament, without any indecent show of
violence, but with anxious interest and immovable resolution.
And because they are not exhibiting that noisy and rapturous
enthusiasm which is in its own nature transient, because they are
not as much excited as on the day when the plan of the Government
was first made known to them, or on the day when the late
Parliament was dissolved, because they do not go on week after
week, hallooing, and holding meetings, and marching about with
flags, and making bonfires, and illuminating their houses, we are
again told that there is a reaction. To such a degree can men be
deceived by their wishes, in spite of their own recent
experience. Sir, there is no reaction; and there will be no
reaction. All that has been said on this subject convinces me
only that those who are now, for the second time, raising this
cry, know nothing of the crisis in which they are called on to
act, or of the nation which they aspire to govern. All their
opinions respecting this bill are founded on one great error.
They imagine that the public feeling concerning Reform is a mere
whim which sprang up suddenly out of nothing, and which will as
suddenly vanish into nothing. They, therefore, confidently
expect a reaction. They are always looking out for a reaction.
Everything that they see, or that they hear, they construe into a
sign of the approach of this reaction. They resemble the man in
Horace, who lies on the bank of the river, expecting that it will
every moment pass by and leave him a clear passage, not knowing
the depth and abundance of the fountain which feeds it, not
knowing that it flows, and will flow on for ever. They have
found out a hundred ingenious devices by which they deceive
themselves. Sometimes they tell us that the public feeling about
Reform was caused by the events which took place at Paris about
fourteen months ago; though every observant and impartial man
knows, that the excitement which the late French revolution
produced in England was not the cause but the effect of that
progress which liberal opinions had made amongst us. Sometimes
they tell us that we should not have been troubled with any
complaints on the subject of the Representation, if the House of
Commons had agreed to a certain motion, made in the session of
1830, for inquiry into the causes of the public distress. I
remember nothing about that motion, except that it gave rise to
the dullest debate ever known; and the country, I am firmly
convinced, cared not one straw about it. But is it not strange
that men of real ability can deceive themselves so grossly, as to
think that any change in the government of a foreign nation, or
the rejection of any single motion, however popular, could all at
once raise up a great, rich, enlightened nation, against its
ancient institutions? Could such small drops have produced an
overflowing, if the vessel had not already been filled to the
very brim? These explanations are incredible, and if they were
credible, would be anything but consolatory. If it were really
true that the English people had taken a sudden aversion to a
representative system which they had always loved and admired,
because a single division in Parliament had gone against their
wishes, or because, in a foreign country, in circumstances
bearing not the faintest analogy to those in which we are placed,
a change of dynasty had happened, what hope could we have for
such a nation of madmen? How could we expect that the present
form of government, or any form of government, would be durable
amongst them?
Sir, the public feeling concerning Reform is of no such recent
origin, and springs from no such frivolous causes. Its first
faint commencement may be traced far, very far, back in our
history. During seventy years that feeling has had a great
influence on the public mind. Through the first thirty years of
the reign of George the Third, it was gradually increasing. The
great leaders of the two parties in the State were favourable to
Reform. Plans of reform were supported by large and most
respectable minorities in the House of Commons. The French
Revolution, filling the higher and middle classes with an extreme
dread of change, and the war calling away the public attention
from internal to external politics, threw the question back; but
the people never lost sight of it. Peace came, and they were at
leisure to think of domestic improvements. Distress came, and
they suspected, as was natural, that their distress was the
effect of unfaithful stewardship and unskilful legislation. An
opinion favourable to Parliamentary Reform grew up rapidly, and
became strong among the middle classes. But one tie, one strong
tie, still bound those classes to the Tory party. I mean the
Catholic Question. It is impossible to deny that, on that
subject, a large proportion, a majority, I fear, of the middle
class of Englishmen, conscientiously held opinions opposed to
those which I have always entertained, and were disposed to
sacrifice every other consideration to what they regarded as a
religious duty. Thus the Catholic Question hid, so to speak, the
question of Parliamentary Reform. The feeling in favour of
Parliamentary Reform grew, but it grew in the shade. Every man,
I think, must have observed the progress of that feeling in his
own social circle. But few Reform meetings were held, and few
petitions in favour of Reform presented. At length the Catholics
were emancipated; the solitary link of sympathy which attached
the people to the Tories was broken; the cry of "No Popery" could
no longer be opposed to the cry of "Reform." That which, in the
opinion of the two great parties in Parliament, and of a vast
portion of the community, had been the first question, suddenly
disappeared; and the question of Parliamentary Reform took the
first place. Then was put forth all the strength which had been
growing in silence and obscurity. Then it appeared that Reform
had on its side a coalition of interests and opinions
unprecedented in our history, all the liberality and intelligence
which had supported the Catholic claims, and all the clamour
which had opposed them.
This, I believe, is the true history of that public feeling on
the subject of Reform which had been ascribed to causes quite
inadequate to the production of such an effect. If ever there
was in the history of mankind a national sentiment which was the
very opposite of a caprice, with which accident had nothing to
do, which was produced by the slow, steady, certain progress of
the human mind, it is the sentiment of the English people on the
subject of Reform. Accidental circumstances may have brought
that feeling to maturity in a particular year, or a particular
month. That point I will not dispute; for it is not worth
disputing. But those accidental circumstances have brought on
Reform, only as the circumstance that, at a particular time,
indulgences were offered for sale in a particular town in Saxony,
brought on the great separation from the Church of Rome. In both
cases the public mind was prepared to move on the slightest
impulse.
Thinking thus of the public opinion concerning Reform, being
convinced that this opinion is the mature product of time and of
discussion, I expect no reaction. I no more expect to see my
countrymen again content with the mere semblance of a
Representation, than to see them again drowning witches or
burning heretics, trying causes by red hot ploughshares, or
offering up human sacrifices to wicker idols. I no more expect a
reaction in favour of Gatton and Old Sarum, than a reaction in
favour of Thor and Odin. I should think such a reaction almost
as much a miracle as that the shadow should go back upon the
dial. Revolutions produced by violence are often followed by
reactions; the victories of reason once gained, are gained for
eternity.
In fact, if there be, in the present aspect of public affairs,
any sign peculiarly full of evil omen to the opponents of Reform,
it is that very calmness of the public mind on which they found
their expectation of success. They think that it is the calmness
of indifference. It is the calmness of confident hope: and in
proportion to the confidence of hope will be the bitterness of
disappointment. Disappointment, indeed, I do not anticipate.
That we are certain of success in this House is now acknowledged;
and our opponents have, in consequence, during the whole of this
Session, and particularly during the present debate, addressed
their arguments and exhortations rather to the Lords than to the
assembly of which they are themselves Members. Their principal
argument has always been, that the bill will destroy the peerage.
The honourable and learned Member for Rye has, in plain terms,
called on the Barons of England to save their order from
democratic encroachments, by rejecting this measure. All these
arguments, all these appeals, being interpreted, mean this:
"Proclaim to your countrymen that you have no common interests
with them, no common sympathies with them; that you can be
powerful only by their weakness, and exalted only by their
degradation; that the corruption which disgusts them, and the
oppression against which their spirit rises up, are indispensable
to your authority; that the freedom and purity of election are
incompatible with the very existence of your House. Give them
clearly to understand that your power rests, not as they have
hitherto imagined, on their rational convictions, or on their
habitual veneration, or on your own great property, but on a
system fertile of political evils, fertile also of low iniquities
of which ordinary justice take cognisance. Bind up, in
inseparable union, the privileges of your estate with the
grievances of ours: resolve to stand or fall with abuses visibly
marked out for destruction: tell the people that they are
attacking you in attacking the three holes in the wall, and that
they shall never get rid of the three holes in the wall, till
they have got rid of you; that a hereditary peerage and a
representative assembly, can co-exist only in name, and that, if
they will have a real House of Peers, they must be content with a
mock House of Commons." This, I say, is the advice given to the
Lords by those who call themselves the friends of aristocracy.
That advice so pernicious will not be followed, I am well
assured; yet I cannot but listen to it with uneasiness. I cannot
but wonder that it should proceed from the lips of men who are
constantly lecturing us on the duty of consulting history and
experience. Have they never heard what effects counsels like
their own, when too faithfully followed, have produced? Have
they never visited that neighbouring country, which still
presents to the eye, even of a passing stranger, the signs of a
great dissolution and renovation of society? Have they never
walked by those stately mansions, now sinking into decay, and
portioned out into lodging rooms, which line the silent streets
of the Faubourg St Germain? Have they never seen the ruins of
those castles whose terraces and gardens overhang the Loire?
Have they never heard that from those magnificent hotels, from
those ancient castles, an aristocracy as splendid, as brave, as
proud, as accomplished, as ever Europe saw, was driven forth to
exile and beggary, to implore the charity of hostile Governments
and hostile creeds, to cut wood in the back settlements of
America, or to teach French in the schoolrooms of London? And
why were those haughty nobles destroyed with that utter
destruction? Why were they scattered over the face of the earth,
their titles abolished, their escutcheons defaced, their parks
wasted, their palaces dismantled, their heritage given to
strangers? Because they had no sympathy with the people, no
discernment of the signs of their time; because, in the pride and
narrowness of their hearts, they called those whose warnings
might have saved them theorists and speculators; because they
refused all concession till the time had arrived when no
concession would avail. I have no apprehension that such a fate
awaits the nobles of England. I draw no parallel between our
aristocracy and that of France. Those who represent the peerage
as a class whose power is incompatible with the just influence of
the people in the State, draw that parallel, and not I. They do
all in their power to place the Lords and Commons of England in
that position with respect to each other in which the French
gentry stood with respect to the Third Estate. But I am
convinced that these advisers will not succeed. We see, with
pride and delight, among the friends of the people, the Talbots,
the Cavendishes, the princely house of Howard. Foremost among
those who have entitled themselves, by their exertions in this
House, to the lasting gratitude of their countrymen, we see the
descendants of Marlborough, of Russell, and of Derby. I hope,
and firmly believe, that the Lords will see what their interests
and their honour require. I hope, and firmly believe, that they
will act in such a manner as to entitle themselves to the esteem
and affection of the people. But if not, let not the enemies of
Reform imagine that their reign is straightway to recommence, or
that they have obtained anything more than a short and uneasy
respite. We are bound to respect the constitutional rights of
the Peers; but we are bound also not to forget our own. We, too,
have our privileges; we, too, are an estate of the realm. A
House of Commons strong in the love and confidence of the people,
a House of Commons which has nothing to fear from a dissolution,
is something in the government. Some persons, I well know,
indulge a hope that the rejection of the bill will at once
restore the domination of that party which fled from power last
November, leaving everything abroad and everything at home in
confusion; leaving the European system, which it had built up at
a vast cost of blood and treasure, falling to pieces in every
direction; leaving the dynasties which it had restored, hastening
into exile; leaving the nations which it had joined together,
breaking away from each other; leaving the fundholders in dismay;
leaving the peasantry in insurrection; leaving the most fertile
counties lighted up with the fires of incendiaries; leaving the
capital in such a state, that a royal procession could not pass
safely through it. Dark and terrible, beyond any season within
my remembrance of political affairs, was the day of their flight.
Far darker and far more terrible will be the day of their return.
They will return in opposition to the whole British nation,
united as it was never before united on any internal question;
united as firmly as when the Armada was sailing up the Channel;
united as firmly as when Bonaparte pitched his camp on the cliffs
of Boulogne. They will return pledged to defend evils which the
people are resolved to destroy. They will return to a situation
in which they can stand only by crushing and trampling down
public opinion, and from which, if they fall, they may, in their
fall, drag down with them the whole frame of society. Against
such evils, should such evils appear to threaten the country, it
will be our privilege and our duty to warn our gracious and
beloved Sovereign. It will be our privilege and our duty to
convey the wishes of a loyal people to the throne of a patriot
king. At such a crisis the proper place for the House of Commons
is in front of the nation; and in that place this House will
assuredly be found. Whatever prejudice or weakness may do
elsewhere to ruin the empire, here, I trust, will not be wanting
the wisdom, the virtue, and the energy that may save it.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 10TH OF
OCTOBER, 1831.
On the morning of Saturday, the eighth of October, 1831, the
House of Lords, by a majority of 190 to 158, rejected the Reform
Bill. On the Monday following, Lord Ebrington, member for
Devonshire, moved the following resolution in the House of
Commons:
"That while this House deeply laments the present fate of a bill
for amending the representation of the people in England and
Wales, in favour of which the opinion of the country stands
unequivocally pronounced, and which has been matured by
discussions the most anxious and laborious, it feels itself
called upon to reassert its firm adherence to the principle and
leading provisions of that great measure, and to express its
unabated confidence in the integrity, perseverance, and ability
of those Ministers, who, in introducing and conducting it, have
so well consulted the best interests of the country."
The resolution was carried by 329 votes to 198. The following
speech was made early in the debate.
I doubt, Sir, whether any person who had merely heard the speech
of the right honourable Member for the University of Cambridge
(Mr Goulburn.) would have been able to conjecture what the
question is on which we are discussing, and what the occasion on
which we are assembled. For myself, I can with perfect certainty
declare that never in the whole course of my life did I feel my
mind oppressed by so deep and solemn a sense of responsibility as
at the present moment. I firmly believe that the country is now
in danger of calamities greater than ever threatened it, from
domestic misgovernment or from foreign hostility. The danger is
no less than this, that there may be a complete alienation of the
people from their rulers. To soothe the public mind, to
reconcile the people to the delay, the short delay, which must
intervene before their wishes can be legitimately gratified, and
in the meantime to avert civil discord, and to uphold the
authority of law, these are, I conceive, the objects of my noble
friend, the Member for Devonshire: these ought, at the present
crisis, to be the objects of every honest Englishman. They are
objects which will assuredly be attained, if we rise to this
great occasion, if we take our stand in the place which the
Constitution has assigned to us, if we employ, with becoming
firmness and dignity, the powers which belong to us as trustees
of the nation, and as advisers of the Throne.
Sir, the Resolution of my noble friend consists of two parts. He
calls upon us to declare our undiminished attachment to the
principles of the Reform Bill, and also our undiminished
confidence in His Majesty's Ministers. I consider these two
declarations as identical. The question of Reform is, in my
opinion, of such paramount importance, that, approving the
principles of the Ministerial Bill, I must think the Ministers
who have brought that bill forward, although I may differ from
them on some minor points, entitled to the strongest support of
Parliament. The right honourable gentleman, the Member for the
University of Cambridge, has attempted to divert the course of
the debate to questions comparatively unimportant. He has said
much about the coal duty, about the candle duty, about the budget
of the present Chancellor of the Exchequer. On most of the
points to which he has referred, it would be easy for me, were I
so inclined, to defend the Ministers; and where I could not
defend them, I should find it easy to recriminate on those who
preceded them. The right honourable Member for the University of
Cambridge has taunted the Ministers with the defeat which their
plan respecting the timber trade sustained in the last
Parliament. I might, perhaps, at a more convenient season, be
tempted to inquire whether that defeat was more disgraceful to
them or to their predecessors. I might, perhaps, be tempted to
ask the right honourable gentleman whether, if he had not been
treated, while in office, with more fairness than he has shown
while in opposition, it would have been in his power to carry his
best bill, the Beer Bill? He has accused the Ministers of
bringing forward financial propositions, and then withdrawing
those propositions. Did not he bring forward, during the Session
of 1830, a plan respecting the sugar duties? And was not that
plan withdrawn? But, Sir, this is mere trifling. I will not be
seduced from the matter in hand by the right honourable
gentleman's example. At the present moment I can see only one
question in the State, the question of Reform; only two parties,
the friends of the Reform Bill and its enemies.
It is not my intention, Sir, again to discuss the merits of the
Reform Bill. The principle of that bill received the approbation
of the late House of Commons after a discussion of ten nights;
and the bill as it now stands, after a long and most laborious
investigation, passed the present House of Commons by a majority
which was nearly half as large again as the minority. This was
little more than a fortnight ago. Nothing has since occurred to
change our opinion. The justice of the case is unaltered. The
public enthusiasm is undiminished. Old Sarum has grown no
larger. Manchester has grown no smaller. In addressing this
House, therefore, I am entitled to assume that the bill is in
itself a good bill. If so, ought we to abandon it merely because
the Lords have rejected it? We ought to respect the lawful
privileges of their House; but we ought also to assert our own.
We are constitutionally as independent of their Lordships as
their Lordships are of us. We have precisely as good a right to
adhere to our opinion as they have to dissent from it. In
speaking of their decision, I will attempt to follow that example
of moderation which was so judiciously set by my noble friend,
the Member for Devonshire. I will only say that I do not think
that they are more competent to form a correct judgment on a
political question than we are. It is certain that, on all the
most important points on which the two Houses have for a long
time past differed, the Lords have at length come over to the
opinion of the Commons. I am therefore entitled to say, that
with respect to all those points, the Peers themselves being
judges, the House of Commons was in the right and the House of
Lords in the wrong. It was thus with respect to the Slave trade:
it was thus with respect to Catholic Emancipation: it was thus
with several other important questions. I, therefore, cannot
think that we ought, on the present occasion, to surrender our
judgment to those who have acknowledged that, on former occasions
of the same kind, we have judged more correctly than they.
Then again, Sir, I cannot forget how the majority and the
minority in this House were composed; I cannot forget that the
majority contained almost all those gentlemen who are returned by
large bodies of electors. It is, I believe, no exaggeration to
say, that there were single Members of the majority who had more
constituents than the whole minority put together. I speak
advisedly and seriously. I believe that the number of
freeholders of Yorkshire exceeds that of all the electors who
return the Opposition. I cannot with propriety comment here on
any reports which may have been circulated concerning the
majority and minority in the House of Lords. I may, however,
mention these notoriously historical facts; that during the last
forty years the powers of the executive Government have been,
almost without intermission, exercised by a party opposed to
Reform; and that a very great number of Peers have been created,
and all the present Bishops raised to the bench during those
years. On this question, therefore, while I feel more than usual
respect for the judgment of the House of Commons, I feel less
than usual respect for the judgment of the House of Lords. Our
decision is the decision of the nation; the decision of their
Lordships can scarcely be considered as the decision even of that
class from which the Peers are generally selected, and of which
they may be considered as virtual representatives, the great
landed gentlemen of England. It seems to me clear, therefore,
that we ought, notwithstanding what has passed in the other
House, to adhere to our opinion concerning the Reform Bill.
The next question is this; ought we to make a formal declaration
that we adhere to our opinion? I think that we ought to make
such a declaration; and I am sure that we cannot make it in more
temperate or more constitutional terms than those which my noble
friend asks us to adopt. I support the Resolution which he has
proposed with all my heart and soul: I support it as a friend to
Reform; but I support it still more as a friend to law, to
property, to social order. No observant and unprejudiced man can
look forward without great alarm to the effects which the recent
decision of the Lords may possibly produce. I do not predict, I
do not expect, open, armed insurrection. What I apprehend is
this, that the people may engage in a silent, but extensive and
persevering war against the law. What I apprehend is, that
England may exhibit the same spectacle which Ireland exhibited
three years ago, agitators stronger than the magistrate,
associations stronger than the law, a Government powerful enough
to be hated, and not powerful enough to be feared, a people bent
on indemnifying themselves by illegal excesses for the want of
legal privileges. I fear, that we may before long see the
tribunals defied, the tax-gatherer resisted, public credit
shaken, property insecure, the whole frame of society hastening
to dissolution. It is easy to say, "Be bold: be firm: defy
intimidation: let the law have its course: the law is strong
enough to put down the seditious." Sir, we have heard all this
blustering before; and we know in what it ended. It is the
blustering of little men whose lot has fallen on a great crisis.
Xerxes scourging the winds, Canute commanding the waves to recede
from his footstool, were but types of the folly of those who
apply the maxims of the Quarter Sessions to the great convulsions
of society. The law has no eyes: the law has no hands: the law
is nothing, nothing but a piece of paper printed by the King's
printer, with the King's arms at the top, till public opinion
breathes the breath of life into the dead letter. We found this
in Ireland. The Catholic Association bearded the Government.
The Government resolved to put down the Association. An
indictment was brought against my honourable and learned friend,
the Member for Kerry. The Grand Jury threw it out. Parliament
met. The Lords Commissioners came down with a speech
recommending the suppression of the self-constituted legislature
of Dublin. A bill was brought in: it passed both Houses by
large majorities: it received the Royal assent. And what effect
did it produce? Exactly as much as that old Act of Queen
Elizabeth, still unrepealed, by which it is provided that every
man who, without a special exemption, shall eat meat on Fridays
and Saturdays, shall pay a fine of twenty shillings or go to
prison for a month. Not only was the Association not destroyed:
its power was not for one day suspended: it flourished and waxed
strong under the law which had been made for the purpose of
annihilating it. The elections of 1826, the Clare election two
years later, proved the folly of those who think that nations are
governed by wax and parchment: and, at length, in the close of
1828, the Government had only one plain choice before it,
concession or civil war. Sir, I firmly believe that, if the
people of England shall lose all hope of carrying the Reform Bill
by constitutional means, they will forthwith begin to offer to
the Government the same kind of resistance which was offered to
the late Government, three years ago, by the people of Ireland, a
resistance by no means amounting to rebellion, a resistance
rarely amounting to any crime defined by the law, but a
resistance nevertheless which is quite sufficient to obstruct the
course of justice, to disturb the pursuits of industry, and to
prevent the accumulation of wealth. And is not this a danger
which we ought to fear? And is not this a danger which we are
bound, by all means in our power, to avert? And who are those
who taunt us for yielding to intimidation? Who are those who
affect to speak with contempt of associations, and agitators, and
public meetings? Even the very persons who, scarce two years
ago, gave up to associations, and agitators, and public meetings,
their boasted Protestant Constitution, proclaiming all the time
that they saw the evils of Catholic Emancipation as strongly as
ever. Surely, surely, the note of defiance which is now so
loudly sounded in our ears, proceeds with a peculiarly bad grace
from men whose highest glory it is that they abased themselves to
the dust before a people whom their policy had driven to madness,
from men the proudest moment of whose lives was that in which
they appeared in the character of persecutors scared into
toleration. Do they mean to indemnify themselves for the
humiliation of quailing before the people of Ireland by trampling
on the people of England? If so, they deceive themselves. The
case of Ireland, though a strong one, was by no means so strong a
case as that with which we have now to deal. The Government, in
its struggle with the Catholics of Ireland, had Great Britain at
its back. Whom will it have at its back in the struggle with the
Reformers of Great Britain? I know only two ways in which
societies can permanently be governed, by public opinion, and by
the sword. A Government having at its command the armies, the
fleets, and the revenues of Great Britain, might possibly hold
Ireland by the sword. So Oliver Cromwell held Ireland; so
William the Third held it; so Mr Pitt held it; so the Duke of
Wellington might perhaps have held it. But to govern Great
Britain by the sword! So wild a thought has never, I will
venture to say, occurred to any public man of any party; and, if
any man were frantic enough to make the attempt, he would find,
before three days had expired, that there is no better sword than
that which is fashioned out of a ploughshare. But, if not by the
sword, how is the country to be governed? I understand how the
peace is kept at New York. It is by the assent and support of
the people. I understand also how the peace is kept at Milan.
It is by the bayonets of the Austrian soldiers. But how the
peace is to be kept when you have neither the popular assent nor
the military force, how the peace is to be kept in England by a
Government acting on the principles of the present Opposition, I
do not understand.
There is in truth a great anomaly in the relation between the
English people and their Government. Our institutions are either
too popular or not popular enough. The people have not
sufficient power in making the laws; but they have quite
sufficient power to impede the execution of the laws when made.
The Legislature is almost entirely aristocratical; the machinery
by which the degrees of the Legislature are carried into effect
is almost entirely popular; and, therefore, we constantly see all
the power which ought to execute the law, employed to counteract
the law. Thus, for example, with a criminal code which carries
its rigour to the length of atrocity, we have a criminal
judicature which often carries its lenity to the length of
perjury. Our law of libel is the most absurdly severe that ever
existed, so absurdly severe that, if it were carried into full
effect, it would be much more oppressive than a censorship. And
yet, with this severe law of libel, we have a press which
practically is as free as the air. In 1819 the Ministers
complained of the alarming increase of seditious and blasphemous
publications. They proposed a bill of great rigour to stop the
growth of the evil; and they carried their bill. It was enacted,
that the publisher of a seditious libel might, on a second
conviction, be banished, and that if he should return from
banishment, he might be transported. How often was this law put
in force? Not once. Last year we repealed it: but it was
already dead, or rather it was dead born. It was obsolete before
Le Roi le veut had been pronounced over it. For any effect which
it produced it might as well have been in the Code Napoleon as in
the English Statute Book. And why did the Government, having
solicited and procured so sharp and weighty a weapon, straightway
hang it up to rust? Was there less sedition, were there fewer
libels, after the passing of the Act than before it? Sir, the
very next year was the year 1820, the year of the Bill of Pains
and Penalties against Queen Caroline, the very year when the
public mind was most excited, the very year when the public press
was most scurrilous. Why then did not the Ministers use their
new law? Because they durst not: because they could not. They
had obtained it with ease; for in obtaining it they had to deal
with a subservient Parliament. They could not execute it: for
in executing it they would have to deal with a refractory people.
These are instances of the difficulty of carrying the law into
effect when the people are inclined to thwart their rulers. The
great anomaly, or, to speak more properly, the great evil which I
have described, would, I believe, be removed by the Reform Bill.
That bill would establish harmony between the people and the
Legislature. It would give a fair share in the making of laws to
those without whose co-operation laws are mere waste paper.
Under a reformed system we should not see, as we now often see,
the nation repealing Acts of Parliament as fast as we and the
Lords can pass them. As I believe that the Reform Bill would
produce this blessed and salutary concord, so I fear that the
rejection of the Reform Bill, if that rejection should be
considered as final, will aggravate the evil which I have been
describing to an unprecedented, to a terrible extent. To all the
laws which might be passed for the collection of the revenue, or
for the prevention of sedition, the people would oppose the same
kind of resistance by means of which they have succeeded in
mitigating, I might say in abrogating, the law of libel. There
would be so many offenders that the Government would scarcely
know at whom to aim its blow. Every offender would have so many
accomplices and protectors that the blow would almost always miss
the aim. The Veto of the people, a Veto not pronounced in set
form like that of the Roman Tribunes, but quite as effectual as
that of the Roman Tribunes for the purpose of impeding public
measures, would meet the Government at every turn. The
administration would be unable to preserve order at home, or to
uphold the national honour abroad; and, at length, men who are
now moderate, who now think of revolution with horror, would
begin to wish that the lingering agony of the State might be
terminated by one fierce, sharp, decisive crisis.
Is there a way of escape from these calamities? I believe that
there is. I believe that, if we do our duty, if we give the
people reason to believe that the accomplishment of their wishes
is only deferred, if we declare our undiminished attachment to
the Reform Bill, and our resolution to support no Minister who
will not support that bill, we shall avert the fearful disasters
which impend over the country. There is danger that, at this
conjuncture, men of more zeal than wisdom may obtain a fatal
influence over the public mind. With these men will be joined
others, who have neither zeal nor wisdom, common barrators in
politics, dregs of society which, in times of violent agitation,
are tossed up from the bottom to the top, and which, in quiet
times, sink again from the top to their natural place at the
bottom. To these men nothing is so hateful as the prospect of a
reconciliation between the orders of the State. A crisis like
that which now makes every honest citizen sad and anxious fills
these men with joy, and with a detestable hope. And how is it
that such men, formed by nature and education to be objects of
mere contempt, can ever inspire terror? How is it that such men,
without talents or acquirements sufficient for the management of
a vestry, sometimes become dangerous to great empires? The
secret of their power lies in the indolence or faithlessness of
those who ought to take the lead in the redress of public
grievances. The whole history of low traders in sedition is
contained in that fine old Hebrew fable which we have all read in
the Book of Judges. The trees meet to choose a king. The vine,
and the fig tree, and the olive tree decline the office. Then it
is that the sovereignty of the forest devolves upon the bramble:
then it is that from a base and noxious shrub goes forth the fire
which devours the cedars of Lebanon. Let us be instructed. If
we are afraid of political Unions and Reform Associations, let
the House of Commons become the chief point of political union:
let the House of Commons be the great Reform Association. If we
are afraid that the people may attempt to accomplish their wishes
by unlawful means, let us give them a solemn pledge that we will
use in their cause all our high and ancient privileges, so often
victorious in old conflicts with tyranny; those privileges which
our ancestors invoked, not in vain, on the day when a faithless
king filled our house with his guards, took his seat, Sir, on
your chair, and saw your predecessor kneeling on the floor before
him. The Constitution of England, thank God, is not one of those
constitutions which are past all repair, and which must, for the
public welfare, be utterly destroyed. It has a decayed part; but
it has also a sound and precious part. It requires purification;
but it contains within itself the means by which that
purification may be effected. We read that in old times, when
the villeins were driven to revolt by oppression, when the
castles of the nobility were burned to the ground, when the
warehouses of London were pillaged, when a hundred thousand
insurgents appeared in arms on Blackheath, when a foul murder
perpetrated in their presence had raised their passions to
madness, when they were looking round for some captain to succeed
and avenge him whom they had lost, just then, before Hob Miller,
or Tom Carter, or Jack Straw, could place himself at their head,
the King rode up to them and exclaimed, "I will be your leader!"
and at once the infuriated multitude laid down their arms,
submitted to his guidance, dispersed at his command. Herein let
us imitate him. Our countrymen are, I fear, at this moment, but
too much disposed to lend a credulous ear to selfish impostors.
Let us say to them, "We are your leaders; we, your own house of
Commons; we, the constitutional interpreters of your wishes; the
knights of forty English shires, the citizens and burgesses of
all your largest towns. Our lawful power shall be firmly exerted
to the utmost in your cause; and our lawful power is such, that
when firmly exerted in your cause, it must finally prevail."
This tone it is our interest and our duty to take. The
circumstances admit of no delay. Is there one among us who is
not looking with breathless anxiety for the next tidings which
may arrive from the remote parts of the kingdom? Even while I
speak, the moments are passing away, the irrevocable moments
pregnant with the destiny of a great people. The country is in
danger: it may be saved: we can save it: this is the way:
this is the time. In our hands are the issues of great good and
great evil, the issues of the life and death of the State. May
the result of our deliberations be the repose and prosperity of
that noble country which is entitled to all our love; and for the
safety of which we are answerable to our own consciences, to the
memory of future ages, to the Judge of all hearts!
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 27TH OF
FEBRUARY, 1832.
On Monday, the twenty-seventh of February, 1832, the House took
into consideration the report of the Committee on Mr Warburton's
Anatomy Bill. Mr Henry Hunt attacked that bill with great
asperity. In reply to him the following Speech was made.
Sir, I cannot, even at this late hour of the night, refrain from
saying two or three words. Most of the observations of the
honourable Member for Preston I pass by, as undeserving of any
answer before an audience like this. But on one part of his
speech I must make a few remarks. We are, he says, making a law
to benefit the rich, at the expense of the poor. Sir, the fact
is the direct reverse. This is a bill which tends especially to
the benefit of the poor. What are the evils against which we are
attempting to make provision? Two especially; that is to say,
the practice of Burking, and bad surgery. Now to both these the
poor alone are exposed. What man, in our rank of life, runs the
smallest risk of being Burked? That a man has property, that he
has connections, that he is likely to be missed and sought for,
are circumstances which secure him against the Burker. It is
curious to observe the difference between murders of this kind
and other murders. An ordinary murder hides the body, and
disposes of the property. Bishop and Williams dig holes and bury
the property, and expose the body to sale. The more wretched,
the more lonely, any human being may be, the more desirable prey
is he to these wretches. It is the man, the mere naked man, that
they pursue. Again, as to bad surgery; this is, of all evils,
the evil by which the rich suffer least, and the poor most. If
we could do all that in the opinion of the Member for Preston
ought to be done, if we could destroy the English school of
anatomy, if we could force every student of medical science to go
to the expense of a foreign education, on whom would the bad
consequences fall? On the rich? Not at all. As long as there
is in France, in Italy, in Germany, a single surgeon of eminent
skill, a single surgeon who is, to use the phrase of the member
for Preston, addicted to dissection, that surgeon will be in
attendance whenever an English nobleman is to be cut for the
stone. The higher orders in England will always be able to
procure the best medical assistance. Who suffers by the bad
state of the Russian school of surgery? The Emperor Nicholas?
By no means. The whole evil falls on the peasantry. If the
education of a surgeon should become very extensive, if the fees
of surgeons should consequently rise, if the supply of regular
surgeons should diminish, the sufferers would be, not the rich,
but the poor in our country villages, who would again be left to
mountebanks, and barbers, and old women, and charms and quack
medicines. The honourable gentleman talks of sacrificing the
interests of humanity to the interests of science, as if this
were a question about the squaring of the circle, or the transit
of Venus. This is not a mere question of science: it is not the
unprofitable exercise of an ingenious mind: it is a question
between health and sickness, between ease and torment, between
life and death. Does the honourable gentleman know from what
cruel sufferings the improvement of surgical science has rescued
our species? I will tell him one story, the first that comes
into my head. He may have heard of Leopold, Duke of Austria, the
same who imprisoned our Richard Coeur-de-Lion. Leopold's horse
fell under him, and crushed his leg. The surgeons said that the
limb must be amputated; but none of them knew how to amputate it.
Leopold, in his agony, laid a hatchet on his thigh, and ordered
his servant to strike with a mallet. The leg was cut off, and
the Duke died of the gush of blood. Such was the end of that
powerful prince. Why, there is not now a bricklayer who falls
from a ladder in England, who cannot obtain surgical assistance,
infinitely superior to that which the sovereign of Austria could
command in the twelfth century. I think this a bill which tends
to the good of the people, and which tends especially to the good
of the poor. Therefore I support it. If it is unpopular, I am
sorry for it. But I shall cheerfully take my share of its
unpopularity. For such, I am convinced, ought to be the conduct
of one whose object it is, not to flatter the people, but to
serve them.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN A COMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE
28TH OF FEBRUARY, 1832.
On Tuesday, the twenty-eighth of February, 1832, in the Committee
on the Bill to amend the representation of the people in England
and Wales, the question was put, "That the Tower Hamlets,
Middlesex, stand part of Schedule C." The opponents of the Bill
mustered their whole strength on this occasion, and were joined
by some members who had voted with the Government on the second
reading. The question was carried, however, by 316 votes to 236.
The following Speech was made in reply to the Marquess of Chandos
and Sir Edward Sugden, who, on very different grounds, objected
to any increase in the number of metropolitan members.
Mr Bernal,--I have spoken so often on the question of
Parliamentary Reform, that I am very unwilling to occupy the time
of the Committee. But the importance of the amendment proposed
by the noble Marquess, and the peculiar circumstances in which we
are placed to-night, make me so anxious that I cannot remain
silent.
In this debate, as in every other debate, our first object should
be to ascertain on which side the burden of the proof lies. Now,
it seems to me quite clear that the burden of the proof lies on
those who support the amendment. I am entitled to take it for
granted that it is right and wise to give representatives to some
wealthy and populous places which have hitherto been
unrepresented. To this extent, at least, we all, with scarcely
an exception, now profess ourselves Reformers. There is, indeed,
a great party which still objects to the disfranchising even of
the smallest boroughs. But all the most distinguished chiefs of
that party have, here and elsewhere, admitted that the elective
franchise ought to be given to some great towns which have risen
into importance since our representative system took its present
form. If this be so, on what ground can it be contended that
these metropolitan districts ought not to be represented? Are
they inferior in importance to the other places to which we are
all prepared to give members? I use the word importance with
perfect confidence: for, though in our recent debates there has
been some dispute as to the standard by which the importance of
towns is to be measured, there is no room for dispute here.
Here, take what standard you will, the result will be the same.
Take population: take the rental: take the number of ten pound
houses: take the amount of the assessed taxes: take any test in
short: take any number of tests, and combine those tests in any
of the ingenious ways which men of science have suggested:
multiply: divide: subtract: add: try squares or cubes: try
square roots or cube roots: you will never be able to find a
pretext for excluding these districts from Schedule C. If, then,
it be acknowledged that the franchise ought to be given to
important places which are at present unrepresented, and if it be
acknowledged that these districts are in importance not inferior
to any place which is at present unrepresented, you are bound to
give us strong reasons for withholding the franchise from these
districts.
The honourable and learned gentleman (Sir E. Sugden.) has tried
to give such reasons; and, in doing so, he has completely refuted
the whole speech of the noble Marquess, with whom he means to
divide. (The Marquess of Chandos.) The truth is that the noble
Marquess and the honourable and learned gentleman, though they
agree in their votes, do not at all agree in their forebodings or
in their ulterior intentions. The honourable and learned
gentleman thinks it dangerous to increase the number of
metropolitan voters. The noble Lord is perfectly willing to
increase the number of metropolitan voters, and objects only to
any increase in the number of metropolitan members. "Will you,"
says the honourable and learned gentleman, "be so rash, so
insane, as to create constituent bodies of twenty or thirty
thousand electors?" "Yes," says the noble Marquess, "and much
more than that. I will create constituent bodies of forty
thousand, sixty thousand, a hundred thousand. I will add
Marylebone to Westminster. I will add Lambeth to Southwark. I
will add Finsbury and the Tower Hamlets to the City." The noble
Marquess, it is clear, is not afraid of the excitement which may
be produced by the polling of immense multitudes. Of what then
is he afraid? Simply of eight members: nay, of six members:
for he is willing, he tells us, to add two members to the two who
already sit for Middlesex, and who may be considered as
metropolitan members. Are six members, then, so formidable? I
could mention a single peer who now sends more than six members
to the House. But, says the noble Marquess, the members for the
metropolitan districts will be called to a strict account by
their constituents: they will be mere delegates: they will be
forced to speak, not their own sense, but the sense of the
capital. I will answer for it, Sir, that they will not be called
to a stricter account than those gentlemen who are nominated by
some great proprietors of boroughs. Is it not notorious that
those who represent it as in the highest degree pernicious and
degrading that a public man should be called to account by a
great city which has intrusted its dearest interests to his care,
do nevertheless think that he is bound by the most sacred ties of
honour to vote according to the wishes of his patron or to apply
for the Chiltern Hundreds? It is a bad thing, I fully admit,
that a Member of Parliament should be a mere delegate. But it is
not worse that he should be the delegate of a hundred thousand
people than of one too powerful individual. What a perverse,
what an inconsistent spirit is this; too proud to bend to the
wishes of a nation, yet ready to lick the dust at the feet of a
patron! And how is it proved that a member for Lambeth or
Finsbury will be under a more servile awe of his constituents
than a member for Leicester, or a member for Leicestershire, or a
member for the University of Oxford? Is it not perfectly
notorious that many members voted, year after year, against
Catholic Emancipation, simply because they knew that, if they
voted otherwise, they would lose their seats? No doubt this is
an evil. But it is an evil which will exist in some form or
other as long as human nature is the same, as long as there are
men so low-minded as to prefer the gratification of a vulgar
ambition to the approbation of their conscience and the welfare
of their country. Construct your representative system as you
will, these men will always be sycophants. If you give power to
Marylebone, they will fawn on the householders of Marylebone. If
you leave power to Gatton, they will fawn on the proprietor of
Gatton. I can see no reason for believing that their baseness
will be more mischievous in the former case than in the latter.
But, it is said, the power of this huge capital is even now
dangerously great; and will you increase that power? Now, Sir, I
am far from denying that the power of London is, in some sense,
dangerously great; but I altogether deny that the danger will be
increased by this bill. It has always been found that a hundred
thousand people congregated close to the seat of government
exercise a greater influence on public affairs than five hundred
thousand dispersed over a remote province. But this influence is
not proportioned to the number of representatives chosen by the
capital. This influence is felt at present, though the greater
part of the capital is unrepresented. This influence is felt in
countries where there is no representative system at all.
Indeed, this influence is nowhere so great as under despotic
governments. I need not remind the Committee that the Caesars,
while ruling by the sword, while putting to death without a trial
every senator, every magistrate, who incurred their displeasure,
yet found it necessary to keep the populace of the imperial city
in good humour by distributions of corn and shows of wild beasts.
Every country, from Britain to Egypt, was squeezed for the means
of filling the granaries and adorning the theatres of Rome. On
more than one occasion, long after the Cortes of Castile had
become a mere name, the rabble of Madrid assembled before the
royal palace, forced their King, their absolute King, to appear
in the balcony, and exacted from him a promise that he would
dismiss an obnoxious minister. It was in this way that Charles
the Second was forced to part with Oropesa, and that Charles the
Third was forced to part with Squillaci. If there is any country
in the world where pure despotism exists, that country is Turkey;
and yet there is no country in the world where the inhabitants of
the capital are so much dreaded by the government. The Sultan,
who stands in awe of nothing else, stands in awe of the turbulent
populace, which may, at any moment, besiege him in his Seraglio.
As soon as Constantinople is up, everything is conceded. The
unpopular edict is recalled. The unpopular vizier is beheaded.
This sort of power has nothing to do with representation. It
depends on physical force and on vicinity. You do not propose to
take this sort of power away from London. Indeed, you cannot
take it away. Nothing can take it away but an earthquake more
terrible than that of Lisbon, or a fire more destructive than
that of 1666. Law can do nothing against this description of
power; for it is a power which is formidable only when law has
ceased to exist. While the reign of law continues, eight votes
in a House of six hundred and fifty-eight Members will hardly do
much harm. When the reign of law is at an end, and the reign of
violence commences, the importance of a million and a half of
people, all collected within a walk of the Palace, of the
Parliament House, of the Bank, of the Courts of Justice, will not
be measured by eight or by eighty votes. See, then, what you are
doing. That power which is not dangerous you refuse to London.
That power which is dangerous you leave undiminished; nay, you
make it more dangerous still. For by refusing to let eight or
nine hundred thousand people express their opinions and wishes in
a legal and constitutional way, you increase the risk of
disaffection and of tumult. It is not necessary to have recourse
to the speeches or writings of democrats to show that a
represented district is far more likely to be turbulent than an
unrepresented district. Mr Burke, surely not a rash innovator,
not a flatterer of the multitude, described long ago in this
place with admirable eloquence the effect produced by the law
which gave representative institutions to the rebellious
mountaineers of Wales. That law, he said, had been to an
agitated nation what the twin stars celebrated by Horace were to
a stormy sea; the wind had fallen; the clouds had dispersed; the
threatening waves had sunk to rest. I have mentioned the
commotions of Madrid and Constantinople. Why is it that the
population of unrepresented London, though physically far more
powerful than the population of Madrid or of Constantinople, has
been far more peaceable? Why have we never seen the inhabitants
of the metropolis besiege St James's, or force their way
riotously into this House? Why, but because they have other
means of giving vent to their feelings, because they enjoy the
liberty of unlicensed printing, and the liberty of holding public
meetings. Just as the people of unrepresented London are more
orderly than the people of Constantinople and Madrid, so will the
people of represented London be more orderly than the people of
unrepresented London.
Surely, Sir, nothing can be more absurd than to withhold legal
power from a portion of the community because that portion of the
community possesses natural power. Yet that is precisely what
the noble Marquess would have us do. In all ages a chief cause
of the intestine disorders of states has been that the natural
distribution of power and the legal distribution of power have
not corresponded with each other. This is no newly discovered
truth. It was well known to Aristotle more than two thousand
years ago. It is illustrated by every part of ancient and of
modern history, and eminently by the history of England during
the last few months. Our country has been in serious danger; and
why? Because a representative system, framed to suit the England
of the thirteenth century, did not suit the England of the
nineteenth century; because an old wall, the last relique of a
departed city, retained the privileges of that city, while great
towns, celebrated all over the world for wealth and intelligence,
had no more share in the government than when they were still
hamlets. The object of this bill is to correct those monstrous
disproportions, and to bring the legal order of society into
something like harmony with the natural order. What, then, can
be more inconsistent with the fundamental principle of the bill
than to exclude any district from a share in the representation,
for no reason but because that district is, and must always be,
one of great importance? This bill was meant to reconcile and
unite. Will you frame it in such a manner that it must
inevitably produce irritation and discord? This bill was meant
to be final in the only rational sense of the word final. Will
you frame it in such a way that it must inevitably be shortlived?
Is it to be the first business of the first reformed House of
Commons to pass a new Reform Bill? Gentlemen opposite have often
predicted that the settlement which we are making will not be
permanent; and they are now taking the surest way to accomplish
their own prediction. I agree with them in disliking change
merely as change. I would bear with many things which are
indefensible in theory, nay, with some things which are grievous
in practice, rather than venture on a change in the composition
of Parliament. But when such a change is necessary,--and that
such a change is now necessary is admitted by men of all
parties,--then I hold that it ought to be full and effectual. A
great crisis may be followed by the complete restoration of
health. But no constitution will bear perpetual tampering. If
the noble Marquess's amendment should unhappily be carried, it is
morally certain that the immense population of Finsbury, of
Marylebone, of Lambeth, of the Tower Hamlets, will, importunately
and clamorously, demand redress from the reformed Parliament.
That Parliament, you tell us, will be much more democratically
inclined than the Parliaments of past times. If so, how can you
expect that it will resist the urgent demands of a million of
people close to its door? These eight seats will be given. More
than eight seats will be given. The whole question of Reform
will be opened again; and the blame will rest on those who will,
by mutilating this great law in an essential part, cause hundreds
of thousands who now regard it as a boon to regard it as an
outrage.
Sir, our word is pledged. Let us remember the solemn promise
which we gave to the nation last October at a perilous
conjuncture. That promise was that we would stand firmly by the
principles and leading provisions of the Reform Bill. Our
sincerity is now brought to the test. One of the leading
provisions of the bill is in danger. The question is, not merely
whether these districts shall be represented, but whether we will
keep the faith which we plighted to our countrymen. Let us be
firm. Let us make no concession to those who, having in vain
tried to throw the bill out, are now trying to fritter it away.
An attempt has been made to induce the Irish members to vote
against the government. It has been hinted that, perhaps, some
of the seats taken from the metropolis may be given to Ireland.
Our Irish friends will, I doubt not, remember that the very
persons who offer this bribe exerted themselves not long ago to
raise a cry against the proposition to give additional members to
Belfast, Limerick, Waterford, and Galway. The truth is that our
enemies wish only to divide us, and care not by what means. One
day they try to excite jealousy among the English by asserting
that the plan of the government is too favourable to Ireland.
Next day they try to bribe the Irish to desert us, by promising
to give something to Ireland at the expense of England. Let us
disappoint these cunning men. Let us, from whatever part of the
United Kingdom we come, be true to each other and to the good
cause. We have the confidence of our country. We have justly
earned it. For God's sake let us not throw it away. Other
occasions may arise on which honest Reformers may fairly take
different sides. But to-night he that is not with us is against
us.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 6TH OF FEBRUARY
1833.
On the twenty-ninth of January 1833, the first Parliament elected
under the Reform Act of 1832 met at Westminster. On the fifth of
February, King William the Fourth made a speech from the throne,
in which he expressed his hope that the Houses would entrust him
with such powers as might be necessary for maintaining order in
Ireland and for preserving and strengthening the union between
that country and Great Britain. An Address, assuring His Majesty
of the concurrence and support of the Commons, was moved by Lord
Ormelie and seconded by Mr John Marshall. Mr O'Connell opposed
the Address, and moved, as an amendment, that the House should
resolve itself into a Committee. After a discussion of four
nights the amendment was rejected by 428 votes to 40. On the
second night of the debate the following Speech was made.
Last night, Sir, I thought that it would not be necessary for me
to take any part in the present debate: but the appeal which has
this evening been made to me by my honourable friend the Member
for Lincoln (Mr Edward Lytton Bulwer.) has forced me to rise. I
will, however, postpone the few words which I have to say in
defence of my own consistency, till I have expressed my opinion
on the much more important subject which is before the House.
My honourable friend tells us that we are now called upon to make
a choice between two modes of pacifying Ireland; that the
government recommends coercion; that the honourable and learned
Member for Dublin (Mr O'Connell.) recommends redress; and that it
is our duty to try the effect of redress before we have recourse
to coercion. The antithesis is framed with all the ingenuity
which is characteristic of my honourable friend's style; but I
cannot help thinking that, on this occasion, his ingenuity has
imposed on himself, and that he has not sufficiently considered
the meaning of the pointed phrase which he used with so much
effect. Redress is no doubt a very well sounding word. What can
be more reasonable than to ask for redress? What more unjust
than to refuse redress? But my honourable friend will perceive,
on reflection, that, though he and the honourable and learned
Member for Dublin agree in pronouncing the word redress, they
agree in nothing else. They utter the same sound; but they
attach to it two diametrically opposite meanings. The honourable
and learned Member for Dublin means by redress simply the Repeal
of the Union. Now, to the Repeal of the Union my honourable
friend the Member for Lincoln is decidedly adverse. When we get
at his real meaning, we find that he is just as unwilling as we
are to give the redress which the honourable and learned Member
for Dublin demands. Only a small minority of the House will, I
hope, and believe, vote with that honourable and learned member;
but the minority which thinks with him will be very much smaller.
We have, indeed, been told by some gentlemen, who are not
themselves repealers, that the question of Repeal deserves a much
more serious consideration than it has yet received. Repeal,
they say, is an object on which millions have, however unwisely,
set their hearts; and men who speak in the name of millions are
not to be coughed down or sneered down. That which a suffering
nation regards, rightly or wrongly, as the sole cure for all its
distempers, ought not to be treated with levity, but to be the
subject of full and solemn debate. All this, Sir, is most true:
but I am surprised that this lecture should have been read to us
who sit on your right. It would, I apprehend, have been with
more propriety addressed to a different quarter. Whose fault is
it that we have not yet had, and that there is no prospect of our
having, this full and solemn debate? Is it the fault of His
Majesty's Ministers? Have not they framed the Speech which their
Royal Master delivered from the throne, in such a manner as to
invite the grave and searching discussion of the question of
Repeal? and has not the invitation been declined? Is it not
fresh in our recollection that the honourable and learned Member
for Dublin spoke two hours, perhaps three hours,--nobody keeps
accurate account of time while he speaks,--but two or three hours
without venturing to join issue with us on this subject? In
truth, he suffered judgment to go against him by default. We, on
this side of the House, did our best to provoke him to the
conflict. We called on him to maintain here those doctrines
which he had proclaimed elsewhere with so much vehemence, and, I
am sorry to be forced to add, with a scurrility unworthy of his
parts and eloquence. Never was a challenge more fairly given:
but it was not accepted. The great champion of Repeal would not
lift our glove. He shrank back; he skulked away; not, assuredly,
from distrust of his powers, which have never been more
vigorously exerted than in this debate, but evidently from
distrust of his cause. I have seldom heard so able a speech as
his: I certainly never heard a speech so evasive. From the
beginning to the end he studiously avoided saying a single word
tending to raise a discussion about that Repeal which, in other
places, he constantly affirms to be the sole panacea for all the
evils by which his country is afflicted. Nor is this all.
Yesterday night he placed on our order-book not less than
fourteen notices; and of those notices not a single one had any
reference to the Union between Great Britain and Ireland. It is
therefore evident to me, not only that the honourable and learned
gentleman is not now prepared to debate the question in this
House, but that he has no intention of debating it in this House
at all. He keeps it, and prudently keeps it, for audiences of a
very different kind. I am therefore, I repeat, surprised to hear
the Government accused of avoiding the discussion of this
subject. Why should we avoid a battle in which the bold and
skilful captain of the enemy evidently knows that we must be
victorious?
One gentleman, though not a repealer, has begged us not to
declare ourselves decidedly adverse to repeal till we have
studied the petitions which are coming in from Ireland. Really,
Sir, this is not a subject on which any public man ought to be
now making up his mind. My mind is made up. My reasons are such
as, I am certain, no petition from Ireland will confute. Those
reasons have long been ready to be produced; and, since we are
accused of flinching, I will at once produce them. I am prepared
to show that the Repeal of the Union would not remove the
political and social evils which afflict Ireland, nay, that it
would aggravate almost every one of those evils.
I understand, though I do not approve, the proceedings of poor
Wolfe Tone and his confederates. They wished to make a complete
separation between Great Britain and Ireland. They wished to
establish a Hibernian republic. Their plan was a very bad one;
but, to do them justice, it was perfectly consistent; and an
ingenious man might defend it by some plausible arguments. But
that is not the plan of the honourable and learned Member for
Dublin. He assures us that he wishes the connection between the
islands to be perpetual. He is for a complete separation between
the two Parliaments; but he is for indissoluble union between the
two Crowns. Nor does the honourable and learned gentleman mean,
by an union between the Crowns, such an union as exists between
the Crown of this kingdom and the Crown of Hanover. For I need
not say that, though the same person is king of Great Britain and
of Hanover, there is no more political connection between Great
Britain and Hanover than between Great Britain and Hesse, or
between Great Britain and Bavaria. Hanover may be at peace with
a state with which Great Britain is at war. Nay, Hanover may, as
a member of the Germanic body, send a contingent of troops to
cross bayonets with the King's English footguards. This is not
the relation in which the honourable and learned gentleman
proposes that Great Britain and Ireland should stand to each
other. His plan is, that each of the two countries shall have an
independent legislature, but that both shall have the same
executive government. Now, is it possible that a mind so acute
and so well informed as his should not at once perceive that this
plan involves an absurdity, a downright contradiction. Two
independent legislatures! One executive government! How can the
thing be? No doubt, if the legislative power were quite distinct
from the executive power, England and Ireland might as easily
have two legislatures as two Chancellors and two Courts of King's
Bench. But though, in books written by theorists, the executive
power and the legislative power may be treated as things quite
distinct, every man acquainted with the real working of our
constitution knows that the two powers are most closely
connected, nay, intermingled with each other. During several
generations, the whole administration of affairs has been
conducted in conformity with the sense of Parliament. About
every exercise of the prerogative of the Crown it is the
privilege of Parliament to offer advice; and that advice no wise
king will ever slight. It is the prerogative of the Sovereign to
choose his own servants; but it is impossible for him to maintain
them in office unless Parliament will support them. It is the
prerogative of the Sovereign to treat with other princes; but it
is impossible for him to persist in any scheme of foreign policy
which is disagreeable to Parliament. It is the prerogative of
the Sovereign to make war; but he cannot raise a battalion or man
a frigate without the help of Parliament. The repealers may
therefore be refuted out of their own mouths. They say that
Great Britain and Ireland ought to have one executive power. But
the legislature has a most important share of the executive
power. Therefore, by the confession of the repealers themselves,
Great Britain and Ireland ought to have one legislature.
Consider for one moment in what a situation the executive
government will be placed if you have two independent
legislatures, and if those legislatures should differ, as all
bodies which are independent of each other will sometimes differ.
Suppose the case of a commercial treaty which is unpopular in
England and popular in Ireland. The Irish Parliament expresses
its approbation of the terms, and passes a vote of thanks to the
negotiator. We at Westminster censure the terms and impeach the
negotiator. Or are we to have two foreign offices, one in
Downing Street and one in Dublin Castle? Is His Majesty to send
to every court in Christendom two diplomatic agents, to thwart
each other, and to be spies upon each other? It is inconceivable
but that, in a very few years, disputes such as can be terminated
only by arms must arise between communities so absurdly united
and so absurdly disunited. All history confirms this reasoning.
Superficial observers have fancied that they had found cases on
the other side. But as soon as you examine those cases you will
see either that they bear no analogy to the case with which we
have to deal, or that they corroborate my argument. The case of
Ireland herself has been cited. Ireland, it has been said, had
an independent legislature from 1782 to 1800: during eighteen
years there were two coequal parliaments under one Crown; and yet
there was no collision. Sir, the reason that there was not
perpetual collision was, as we all know, that the Irish
parliament, though nominally independent, was generally kept in
real dependence by means of the foulest corruption that ever
existed in any assembly. But it is not true that there was no
collision. Before the Irish legislature had been six years
independent, a collision did take place, a collision such as
might well have produced a civil war. In the year 1788, George
the Third was incapacitated by illness from discharging his regal
functions. According to the constitution, the duty of making
provision for the discharge of those functions devolved on the
parliaments of Great Britain and Ireland. Between the government
of Great Britain and the government of Ireland there was, during
the interregnum, no connection whatever. The sovereign who was
the common head of both governments had virtually ceased to
exist: and the two legislatures were no more to each other than
this House and the Chamber of Deputies at Paris. What followed?
The Parliament of Great Britain resolved to offer the Regency to
the Prince of Wales under many important restrictions. The
Parliament of Ireland made him an offer of the Regency without
any restrictions whatever. By the same right by which the Irish
Lords and Commons made that offer, they might, if Mr Pitt's
doctrine be the constitutional doctrine, as I believe it to be,
have made the Duke of York or the Duke of Leinster Regent. To
this Regent they might have given all the prerogatives of the
King. Suppose,--no extravagant supposition,--that George the
Third had not recovered, that the rest of his long life had been
passed in seclusion, Great Britain and Ireland would then have
been, during thirty-two years, as completely separated as Great
Britain and Spain. There would have been nothing in common
between the governments, neither executive power nor legislative
power. It is plain, therefore, that a total separation between
the two islands might, in the natural course of things, and
without the smallest violation of the constitution on either
side, be the effect of the arrangement recommended by the
honourable and learned gentleman, who solemnly declares that he
should consider such a separation as the greatest of calamities.
No doubt, Sir, in several continental kingdoms there have been
two legislatures, and indeed more than two legislatures, under
the same Crown. But the explanation is simple. Those
legislatures were of no real weight in the government. Under
Louis the Fourteenth Brittany had its States; Burgundy had its
States; and yet there was no collision between the States of
Brittany and the States of Burgundy. But why? Because neither
the States of Brittany nor the States of Burgundy imposed any
real restraint on the arbitrary power of the monarch. So, in the
dominions of the House of Hapsburg, there is the semblance of a
legislature in Hungary and the semblance of a legislature in the
Tyrol: but all the real power is with the Emperor. I do not say
that you cannot have one executive power and two mock
parliaments, two parliaments which merely transact parish
business, two parliaments which exercise no more influence on
great affairs of state than the vestry of St Pancras or the
vestry of Marylebone. What I do say, and what common sense
teaches, and what all history teaches, is this, that you cannot
have one executive power and two real parliaments, two
parliaments possessing such powers as the parliament of this
country has possessed ever since the Revolution, two parliaments
to the deliberate sense of which the Sovereign must conform. If
they differ, how can he conform to the sense of both? The thing
is as plain as a proposition in Euclid.
It is impossible for me to believe that considerations so obvious
and so important should not have occurred to the honourable and
learned Member for Dublin. Doubtless they have occurred to him;
and therefore it is that he shrinks from arguing the question
here. Nay, even when he harangues more credulous assemblies on
the subject, he carefully avoids precise explanations; and the
hints which sometimes escape him are not easily to be reconciled
with each other. On one occasion, if the newspapers are to be
trusted, he declared that his object was to establish a federal
union between Great Britain and Ireland. A local parliament, it
seems, is to sit at Dublin, and to send deputies to an imperial
parliament which is to sit at Westminster. The honourable and
learned gentleman thinks, I suppose, that in this way he evades
the difficulties which I have pointed out. But he deceives
himself. If, indeed, his local legislature is to be subject to
his imperial legislature, if his local legislature is to be
merely what the Assembly of Antigua or Barbadoes is, or what the
Irish Parliament was before 1782, the danger of collision is no
doubt removed: but what, on the honourable and learned
gentleman's own principles, would Ireland gain by such an
arrangement? If, on the other hand, his local legislature is to
be for certain purposes independent, you have again the risk of
collision. Suppose that a difference of opinion should arise
between the Imperial Parliament and the Irish Parliament as to
the limits of their powers, who is to decide between them? A
dispute between the House of Commons and the House of Lords is
bad enough. Yet in that case, the Sovereign can, by a high
exercise of his prerogative, produce harmony. He can send us
back to our constituents; and, if that expedient fails, he can
create more lords. When, in 1705, the dispute between the Houses
about the Aylesbury men ran high, Queen Anne restored concord by
dismissing the Parliament. Seven years later she put an end to
another conflict between the Houses by making twelve peers in one
day. But who is to arbitrate between two representative bodies
chosen by different constituent bodies? Look at what is now
passing in America. Of all federal constitutions that of the
United States is the best. It was framed by a convention which
contained many wise and experienced men, and over which
Washington presided. Yet there is a debateable ground on the
frontier which separates the functions of Congress from those of
the state legislatures. A dispute as to the exact boundary has
lately arisen. Neither party seems disposed to yield: and, if
both persist, there can be no umpire but the sword.
For my part, Sir, I have no hesitation in saying that I should
very greatly prefer the total separation which the honourable and
learned gentleman professes to consider as a calamity, to the
partial separation which he has taught his countrymen to regard
as a blessing. If, on a fair trial, it be found that Great
Britain and Ireland cannot exist happily together as parts of one
empire, in God's name let them separate. I wish to see them
joined as the limbs of a well formed body are joined. In such a
body the members assist each other: they are nourished by the
same food: if one member suffer, all suffer with it: if one
member rejoice, all rejoice with it. But I do not wish to see
the countries united, like those wretched twins from Siam who
were exhibited here a little while ago, by an unnatural ligament
which made each the constant plague of the other, always in each
other's way, more helpless than others because they had twice as
many hands, slower than others because they had twice as many
legs, sympathising with each other only in evil, not feeling each
other's pleasures, not supported by each other's aliments, but
tormented by each other's infirmities, and certain to perish
miserably by each other's dissolution.
Ireland has undoubtedly just causes of complaint. We heard those
causes recapitulated last night by the honourable and learned
Member, who tells us that he represents not Dublin alone, but
Ireland, and that he stands between his country and civil war. I
do not deny that most of the grievances which he recounted exist,
that they are serious, and that they ought to be remedied as far
as it is in the power of legislation to remedy them. What I do
deny is that they were caused by the Union, and that the Repeal
of the Union would remove them. I listened attentively while the
honourable and learned gentleman went through that long and
melancholy list: and I am confident that he did not mention a
single evil which was not a subject of bitter complaint while
Ireland had a domestic parliament. Is it fair, is it reasonable
in the honourable gentleman to impute to the Union evils which,
as he knows better than any other man in this house, existed long
before the Union? Post hoc: ergo, propter hoc is not always
sound reasoning. But ante hoc: ergo, non propter hoc is
unanswerable. The old rustic who told Sir Thomas More that
Tenterden steeple was the cause of Godwin sands reasoned much
better than the honourable and learned gentleman. For it was not
till after Tenterden steeple was built that the frightful wrecks
on the Godwin sands were heard of. But the honourable and
learned gentleman would make Godwin sands the cause of Tenterden
steeple. Some of the Irish grievances which he ascribes to the
Union are not only older than the Union, but are not peculiarly
Irish. They are common to England, Scotland, and Ireland; and it
was in order to get rid of them that we, for the common benefit
of England, Scotland, and Ireland, passed the Reform Bill last
year. Other grievances which the honourable and learned
gentleman mentioned are doubtless local; but is there to be a
local legislature wherever there is a local grievance? Wales has
had local grievances. We all remember the complaints which were
made a few years ago about the Welsh judicial system; but did
anybody therefore propose that Wales should have a distinct
parliament? Cornwall has some local grievances; but does anybody
propose that Cornwall shall have its own House of Lords and its
own House of Commons? Leeds has local grievances. The majority
of my constituents distrust and dislike the municipal government
to which they are subject; they therefore call loudly on us for
corporation reform: but they do not ask us for a separate
legislature. Of this I am quite sure, that every argument which
has been urged for the purpose of showing that Great Britain and
Ireland ought to have two distinct parliaments may be urged with
far greater force for the purpose of showing that the north of
Ireland and the south of Ireland ought to have two distinct
parliaments. The House of Commons of the United Kingdom, it has
been said, is chiefly elected by Protestants, and therefore
cannot be trusted to legislate for Catholic Ireland. If this be
so, how can an Irish House of Commons, chiefly elected by
Catholics, be trusted to legislate for Protestant Ulster? It is
perfectly notorious that theological antipathies are stronger in
Ireland than here. I appeal to the honourable and learned
gentleman himself. He has often declared that it is impossible
for a Roman Catholic, whether prosecutor or culprit, to obtain
justice from a jury of Orangemen. It is indeed certain that, in
blood, religion, language, habits, character, the population of
some of the northern counties of Ireland has much more in common
with the population of England and Scotland than with the
population of Munster and Connaught. I defy the honourable and
learned Member, therefore, to find a reason for having a
parliament at Dublin which will not be just as good a reason for
having another parliament at Londonderry.
Sir, in showing, as I think I have shown, the absurdity of this
cry for Repeal, I have in a great measure vindicated myself from
the charge of inconsistency which has been brought against me by
my honourable friend the Member for Lincoln. It is very easy to
bring a volume of Hansard to the House, to read a few sentences
of a speech made in very different circumstances, and to say,
"Last year you were for pacifying England by concession: this
year you are for pacifying Ireland by coercion. How can you
vindicate your consistency?" Surely my honourable friend cannot
but know that nothing is easier than to write a theme for
severity, for clemency, for order, for liberty, for a
contemplative life, for a active life, and so on. It was a
common exercise in the ancient schools of rhetoric to take an
abstract question, and to harangue first on one side and then on
the other. The question, Ought popular discontents to be quieted
by concession or coercion? would have been a very good subject
for oratory of this kind. There is no lack of commonplaces on
either side. But when we come to the real business of life, the
value of these commonplaces depends entirely on the particular
circumstances of the case which we are discussing. Nothing is
easier than to write a treatise proving that it is lawful to
resist extreme tyranny. Nothing is easier than to write a
treatise setting forth the wickedness of wantonly bringing on a
great society the miseries inseparable from revolution, the
bloodshed, the spoliation, the anarchy. Both treatises may
contain much that is true; but neither will enable us to decide
whether a particular insurrection is or is not justifiable
without a close examination of the facts. There is surely no
inconsistency in speaking with respect of the memory of Lord
Russell and with horror of the crime of Thistlewood; and, in my
opinion, the conduct of Russell and the conduct of Thistlewood
did not differ more widely than the cry for Parliamentary Reform
and the cry for the Repeal of the Union. The Reform Bill I
believe to be a blessing to the nation. Repeal I know to be a
mere delusion. I know it to be impracticable: and I know that,
if it were practicable, it would be pernicious to every part of
the empire, and utterly ruinous to Ireland. Is it not then
absurd to say that, because I wished last year to quiet the
English people by giving them that which was beneficial to them,
I am therefore bound in consistency to quiet the Irish people
this year by giving them that which will be fatal to them? I
utterly deny, too, that, in consenting to arm the government with
extraordinary powers for the purpose of repressing disturbances
in Ireland, I am guilty of the smallest inconsistency. On what
occasion did I ever refuse to support any government in
repressing disturbances? It is perfectly true that, in the
debates on the Reform Bill, I imputed the tumults and outrages of
1830 to misrule. But did I ever say that those tumults and
outrages ought to be tolerated? I did attribute the Kentish
riots, the Hampshire riots, the burning of corn stacks, the
destruction of threshing machines, to the obstinacy with which
the Ministers of the Crown had refused to listen to the demands
of the people. But did I ever say that the rioters ought not to
be imprisoned, that the incendiaries ought not to be hanged? I
did ascribe the disorders of Nottingham and the fearful sacking
of Bristol to the unwise rejection of the Reform Bill by the
Lords. But did I ever say that such excesses as were committed
at Nottingham and Bristol ought not to be put down, if necessary,
by the sword?
I would act towards Ireland on the same principles on which I
acted towards England. In Ireland, as in England, I would remove
every just cause of complaint; and in Ireland, as in England, I
would support the Government in preserving the public peace.
What is there inconsistent in this? My honourable friend seems
to think that no person who believes that disturbances have been
caused by maladministration can consistently lend his help to put
down those disturbances. If that be so, the honourable and
learned Member for Dublin is quite as inconsistent as I am;
indeed, much more so; for he thinks very much worse of the
Government than I do; and yet he declares himself willing to
assist the Government in quelling the tumults which, as he
assures us, its own misconduct is likely to produce. He told us
yesterday that our harsh policy might perhaps goad the unthinking
populace of Ireland into insurrection; and he added that, if
there should be insurrection, he should, while execrating us as
the authors of all the mischief, be found in our ranks, and
should be ready to support us in everything that might be
necessary for the restoration of order. As to this part of the
subject, there is no difference in principle between the
honourable and learned gentleman and myself. In his opinion, it
is probable that a time may soon come when vigorous coercion may
be necessary, and when it may be the duty of every friend of
Ireland to co-operate in the work of coercion. In my opinion,
that time has already come. The grievances of Ireland are
doubtless great, so great that I never would have connected
myself with a Government which I did not believe to be intent on
redressing those grievances. But am I, because the grievances of
Ireland are great, and ought to be redressed, to abstain from
redressing the worst grievance of all? Am I to look on quietly
while the laws are insulted by a furious rabble, while houses are
plundered and burned, while my peaceable fellow-subjects are
butchered? The distribution of Church property, you tell us, is
unjust. Perhaps I agree with you. But what then? To what
purpose is it to talk about the distribution of Church property,
while no property is secure? Then you try to deter us from
putting down robbery, arson, and murder, by telling us that if we
resort to coercion we shall raise a civil war. We are past that
fear. Recollect that, in one county alone, there have been
within a few weeks sixty murders or assaults with intent to
murder and six hundred burglaries. Since we parted last summer
the slaughter in Ireland has exceeded the slaughter of a pitched
battle: the destruction of property has been as great as would
have been caused by the storming of three or four towns. Civil
war, indeed! I would rather live in the midst of any civil war
that we have had in England during the last two hundred years
than in some parts of Ireland at the present moment. Rather,
much rather, would I have lived on the line of march of the
Pretender's army in 1745 than in Tipperary now. It is idle to
threaten us with civil war; for we have it already; and it is
because we are resolved to put an end to it that we are called
base, and brutal, and bloody. Such are the epithets which the
honourable and learned Member for Dublin thinks it becoming to
pour forth against the party to which he owes every political
privilege that he enjoys. He need not fear that any member of
that party will be provoked into a conflict of scurrility. Use
makes even sensitive minds callous to invective: and, copious as
his vocabulary is, he will not easily find in it any foul name
which has not been many times applied to those who sit around me,
on account of the zeal and steadiness with which they supported
the emancipation of the Roman Catholics. His reproaches are not
more stinging than the reproaches which, in times not very
remote, we endured unflinchingly in his cause. I can assure him
that men who faced the cry of No Popery are not likely to be
scared by the cry of Repeal. The time will come when history
will do justice to the Whigs of England, and will faithfully
relate how much they did and suffered for Ireland; how, for the
sake of Ireland, they quitted office in 1807; how, for the sake
of Ireland, they remained out of office more than twenty years,
braving the frowns of the Court, braving the hisses of the
multitude, renouncing power, and patronage, and salaries, and
peerages, and garters, and yet not obtaining in return even a
little fleeting popularity. I see on the benches near me men who
might, by uttering one word against Catholic Emancipation, nay,
by merely abstaining from uttering a word in favour of Catholic
Emancipation, have been returned to this House without difficulty
or expense, and who, rather than wrong their Irish fellow-
subjects, were content to relinquish all the objects of their
honourable ambition, and to retire into private life with
conscience and fame untarnished. As to one eminent person, who
seems to be regarded with especial malevolence by those who ought
never to mention his name without reverence and gratitude, I will
say only this: that the loudest clamour which the honourable and
learned gentleman can excite against Lord Grey will be trifling
when compared with the clamour which Lord Grey withstood in order
to place the honourable and learned gentleman where he now sits.
Though a young member of the Whig party, I will venture to speak
in the name of the whole body. I tell the honourable and learned
gentleman, that the same spirit which sustained us in a just
contest for him will sustain us in an equally just contest
against him. Calumny, abuse, royal displeasure, popular fury,
exclusion from office, exclusion from Parliament, we were ready
to endure them all, rather than that he should be less than a
British subject. We never will suffer him to be more.
I stand here, Sir, for the first time as the representative of a
new constituent body, one of the largest, most prosperous, and
most enlightened towns in the kingdom. The electors of Leeds,
believing that at this time the service of the people is not
incompatible with the service of the Crown, have sent me to this
House charged, in the language of His Majesty's writ, to do and
consent, in their name and in their behalf, to such things as
shall be proposed in the great Council of the nation. In the
name, then, and on the behalf of my constituents, I give my full
assent to that part of the Address wherein the House declares its
resolution to maintain inviolate, by the help of God, the
connection between Great Britain and Ireland, and to intrust to
the Sovereign such powers as shall be necessary to secure
property, to restore order, and to preserve the integrity of the
empire.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF COMMONS
ON THE 17TH OF APRIL, 1833.
On the seventeenth of April, 1833, the House of Commons resolved
itself into a Committee to consider of the civil disabilities of
the Jews. Mr Warburton took the chair. Mr Robert Grant moved
the following resolution:--
"That it is the opinion of this Committee that it is expedient to
remove all civil disabilities at present existing with respect to
His Majesty's subjects professing the Jewish religion, with the
like exceptions as are provided with respect to His Majesty's
subjects professing the Roman Catholic religion."
The resolution passed without a division, after a warm debate, in
the course of which the following Speech was made.
Mr Warburton,--I recollect, and my honourable friend the Member
for the University of Oxford will recollect, that when this
subject was discussed three years ago, it was remarked, by one
whom we both loved and whom we both regret, that the strength of
the case of the Jews was a serious inconvenience to their
advocate, for that it was hardly possible to make a speech for
them without wearying the audience by repeating truths which were
universally admitted. If Sir James Mackintosh felt this
difficulty when the question was first brought forward in this
House, I may well despair of being able now to offer any
arguments which have a pretence to novelty.
My honourable friend, the Member for the University of Oxford,
began his speech by declaring that he had no intention of calling
in question the principles of religious liberty. He utterly
disclaims persecution, that is to say, persecution as defined by
himself. It would, in his opinion, be persecution to hang a Jew,
or to flay him, or to draw his teeth, or to imprison him, or to
fine him; for every man who conducts himself peaceably has a
right to his life and his limbs, to his personal liberty and his
property. But it is not persecution, says my honourable friend,
to exclude any individual or any class from office; for nobody
has a right to office: in every country official appointments
must be subject to such regulations as the supreme authority may
choose to make; nor can any such regulations be reasonably
complained of by any member of the society as unjust. He who
obtains an office obtains it, not as matter of right, but as
matter of favour. He who does not obtain an office is not
wronged; he is only in that situation in which the vast majority
of every community must necessarily be. There are in the United
Kingdom five and twenty million Christians without places; and,
if they do not complain, why should five and twenty thousand Jews
complain of being in the same case? In this way my honourable
friend has convinced himself that, as it would be most absurd in
him and me to say that we are wronged because we are not
Secretaries of State, so it is most absurd in the Jews to say
that they are wronged, because they are, as a people, excluded
from public employment.
Now, surely my honourable friend cannot have considered to what
conclusions his reasoning leads. Those conclusions are so
monstrous that he would, I am certain, shrink from them. Does he
really mean that it would not be wrong in the legislature to
enact that no man should be a judge unless he weighed twelve
stone, or that no man should sit in parliament unless he were six
feet high? We are about to bring in a bill for the government of
India. Suppose that we were to insert in that bill a clause
providing that no graduate of the University of Oxford should be
Governor General or Governor of any Presidency, would not my
honourable friend cry out against such a clause as most unjust to
the learned body which he represents? And would he think himself
sufficiently answered by being told, in his own words, that the
appointment to office is a mere matter of favour, and that to
exclude an individual or a class from office is no injury?
Surely, on consideration, he must admit that official
appointments ought not to be subject to regulations purely
arbitrary, to regulations for which no reason can be given but
mere caprice, and that those who would exclude any class from
public employment are bound to show some special reason for the
exclusion.
My honourable friend has appealed to us as Christians. Let me
then ask him how he understands that great commandment which
comprises the law and the prophets. Can we be said to do unto
others as we would that they should do unto us if we wantonly
inflict on them even the smallest pain? As Christians, surely we
are bound to consider, first, whether, by excluding the Jews from
all public trust, we give them pain; and, secondly, whether it be
necessary to give them that pain in order to avert some greater
evil. That by excluding them from public trust we inflict pain
on them my honourable friend will not dispute. As a Christian,
therefore, he is bound to relieve them from that pain, unless he
can show, what I am sure he has not yet shown, that it is
necessary to the general good that they should continue to
suffer.
But where, he says, are you to stop, if once you admit into the
House of Commons people who deny the authority of the Gospels?
Will you let in a Mussulman? Will you let in a Parsee? Will you
let in a Hindoo, who worships a lump of stone with seven heads?
I will answer my honourable friend's question by another. Where
does he mean to stop? Is he ready to roast unbelievers at slow
fires? If not, let him tell us why: and I will engage to prove
that his reason is just as decisive against the intolerance which
he thinks a duty, as against the intolerance which he thinks a
crime. Once admit that we are bound to inflict pain on a man
because he is not of our religion; and where are you to stop?
Why stop at the point fixed by my honourable friend rather than
at the point fixed by the honourable Member for Oldham (Mr
Cobbett.), who would make the Jews incapable of holding land?
And why stop at the point fixed by the honourable Member for
Oldham rather than at the point which would have been fixed by a
Spanish Inquisitor of the sixteenth century? When once you enter
on a course of persecution, I defy you to find any reason for
making a halt till you have reached the extreme point. When my
honourable friend tells us that he will allow the Jews to possess
property to any amount, but that he will not allow them to
possess the smallest political power, he holds contradictory
language. Property is power. The honourable Member for Oldham
reasons better than my honourable friend. The honourable Member
for Oldham sees very clearly that it is impossible to deprive a
man of political power if you suffer him to be the proprietor of
half a county, and therefore very consistently proposes to
confiscate the landed estates of the Jews. But even the
honourable Member for Oldham does not go far enough. He has not
proposed to confiscate the personal property of the Jews. Yet it
is perfectly certain that any Jew who has a million may easily
make himself very important in the State. By such steps we pass
from official power to landed property, and from landed property
to personal property, and from property to liberty, and from
liberty to life. In truth, those persecutors who use the rack
and the stake have much to say for themselves. They are
convinced that their end is good; and it must be admitted that
they employ means which are not unlikely to attain the end.
Religious dissent has repeatedly been put down by sanguinary
persecution. In that way the Albigenses were put down. In that
way Protestantism was suppressed in Spain and Italy, so that it
has never since reared its head. But I defy any body to produce
an instance in which disabilities such as we are now considering
have produced any other effect than that of making the sufferers
angry and obstinate. My honourable friend should either
persecute to some purpose, or not persecute at all. He dislikes
the word persecution I know. He will not admit that the Jews are
persecuted. And yet I am confident that he would rather be sent
to the King's Bench Prison for three months, or be fined a
hundred pounds, than be subject to the disabilities under which
the Jews lie. How can he then say that to impose such
disabilities is not persecution, and that to fine and imprison is
persecution? All his reasoning consists in drawing arbitrary
lines. What he does not wish to inflict he calls persecution.
What he does wish to inflict he will not call persecution. What
he takes from the Jews he calls political power. What he is too
good-natured to take from the Jews he will not call political
power. The Jew must not sit in Parliament: but he may be the
proprietor of all the ten pound houses in a borough. He may have
more fifty pound tenants than any peer in the kingdom. He may
give the voters treats to please their palates, and hire bands of
gipsies to break their heads, as if he were a Christian and a
Marquess. All the rest of this system is of a piece. The Jew
may be a juryman, but not a judge. He may decide issues of fact,
but not issues of law. He may give a hundred thousand pounds
damages; but he may not in the most trivial case grant a new
trial. He may rule the money market: he may influence the
exchanges: he may be summoned to congresses of Emperors and
Kings. Great potentates, instead of negotiating a loan with him
by tying him in a chair and pulling out his grinders, may treat
with him as with a great potentate, and may postpone the
declaring of war or the signing of a treaty till they have
conferred with him. All this is as it should be: but he must
not be a Privy Councillor. He must not be called Right
Honourable, for that is political power. And who is it that we
are trying to cheat in this way? Even Omniscience. Yes, Sir; we
have been gravely told that the Jews are under the divine
displeasure, and that if we give them political power God will
visit us in judgment. Do we then think that God cannot
distinguish between substance and form? Does not He know that,
while we withhold from the Jews the semblance and name of
political power, we suffer them to possess the substance? The
plain truth is that my honourable friend is drawn in one
direction by his opinions, and in a directly opposite direction
by his excellent heart. He halts between two opinions. He tries
to make a compromise between principles which admit of no
compromise. He goes a certain way in intolerance. Then he
stops, without being able to give a reason for stopping. But I
know the reason. It is his humanity. Those who formerly dragged
the Jew at a horse's tail, and singed his beard with blazing
furzebushes, were much worse men than my honourable friend; but
they were more consistent than he.
It has been said that it would be monstrous to see a Jew judge
try a man for blasphemy. In my opinion it is monstrous to see
any judge try a man for blasphemy under the present law. But, if
the law on that subject were in a sound state, I do not see why a
conscientious Jew might not try a blasphemer. Every man, I
think, ought to be at liberty to discuss the evidences of
religion; but no man ought to be at liberty to force on the
unwilling ears and eyes of others sounds and sights which must
cause annoyance and irritation. The distinction is clear. I
think it wrong to punish a man for selling Paine's Age of Reason
in a back-shop to those who choose to buy, or for delivering a
Deistical lecture in a private room to those who choose to
listen. But if a man exhibits at a window in the Strand a
hideous caricature of that which is an object of awe and
adoration to nine hundred and ninety-nine out of every thousand
of people who pass up and down that great thoroughfare; if a man
in a place of public resort applies opprobrious epithets to names
held in reverence by all Christians; such a man ought, in my
opinion, to be severely punished, not for differing from us in
opinion, but for committing a nuisance which gives us pain and
disgust. He is no more entitled to outrage our feelings by
obtruding his impiety on us, and to say that he is exercising his
right of discussion, than to establish a yard for butchering
horses close to our houses, and to say that he is exercising his
right of property, or to run naked up and down the public
streets, and to say that he is exercising his right of
locomotion. He has a right of discussion, no doubt, as he has a
right of property and a right of locomotion. But he must use all
his rights so as not to infringe the rights of others.
These, Sir, are the principles on which I would frame the law of
blasphemy; and if the law were so framed, I am at a loss to
understand why a Jew might not enforce it as well as a Christian.
I am not a Roman Catholic; but if I were a judge at Malta, I
should have no scruple about punishing a bigoted Protestant who
should burn the Pope in effigy before the eyes of thousands of
Roman Catholics. I am not a Mussulman; but if I were a judge in
India, I should have no scruple about punishing a Christian who
should pollute a mosque. Why, then, should I doubt that a Jew,
raised by his ability, learning, and integrity to the judicial
bench, would deal properly with any person who, in a Christian
country, should insult the Christian religion?
But, says my honourable friend, it has been prophesied that the
Jews are to be wanderers on the face of the earth, and that they
are not to mix on terms of equality with the people of the
countries in which they sojourn. Now, Sir, I am confident that I
can demonstrate that this is not the sense of any prophecy which
is part of Holy Writ. For it is an undoubted fact that, in the
United States of America, Jewish citizens do possess all the
privileges possessed by Christian citizens. Therefore, if the
prophecies mean that the Jews never shall, during their
wanderings, be admitted by other nations to equal participation
of political rights, the prophecies are false. But the
prophecies are certainly not false. Therefore their meaning
cannot be that which is attributed to them by my honourable
friend.
Another objection which has been made to this motion is that the
Jews look forward to the coming of a great deliverer, to their
return to Palestine, to the rebuilding of their Temple, to the
revival of their ancient worship, and that therefore they will
always consider England, not their country, but merely as their
place of exile. But, surely, Sir, it would be the grossest
ignorance of human nature to imagine that the anticipation of an
event which is to happen at some time altogether indefinite, of
an event which has been vainly expected during many centuries, of
an event which even those who confidently expect that it will
happen do not confidently expect that they or their children or
their grandchildren will see, can ever occupy the minds of men to
such a degree as to make them regardless of what is near and
present and certain. Indeed Christians, as well as Jews, believe
that the existing order of things will come to an end. Many
Christians believe that Jesus will visibly reign on earth during
a thousand years. Expositors of prophecy have gone so far as to
fix the year when the Millennial period is to commence. The
prevailing opinion is, I think, in favour of the year 1866; but,
according to some commentators, the time is close at hand. Are
we to exclude all millennarians from Parliament and office, on
the ground that they are impatiently looking forward to the
miraculous monarchy which is to supersede the present dynasty and
the present constitution of England, and that therefore they
cannot be heartily loyal to King William?
In one important point, Sir, my honourable friend, the Member for
the University of Oxford, must acknowledge that the Jewish
religion is of all erroneous religions the least mischievous.
There is not the slightest chance that the Jewish religion will
spread. The Jew does not wish to make proselytes. He may be
said to reject them. He thinks it almost culpable in one who
does not belong to his race to presume to belong to his religion.
It is therefore not strange that a conversion from Christianity
to Judaism should be a rarer occurrence than a total eclipse of
the sun. There was one distinguished convert in the last
century, Lord George Gordon; and the history of his conversion
deserves to be remembered. For if ever there was a proselyte of
whom a proselytising sect would have been proud, it was Lord
George; not only because he was a man of high birth and rank; not
only because he had been a member of the legislature; but also
because he had been distinguished by the intolerance, nay, the
ferocity, of his zeal for his own form of Christianity. But was
he allured into the Synagogue? Was he even welcomed to it? No,
sir; he was coldly and reluctantly permitted to share the
reproach and suffering of the chosen people; but he was sternly
shut out from their privileges. He underwent the painful rite
which their law enjoins. But when, on his deathbed, he begged
hard to be buried among them according to their ceremonial, he
was told that his request could not be granted. I understand
that cry of "Hear." It reminds me that one of the arguments
against this motion is that the Jews are an unsocial people, that
they draw close to each other, and stand aloof from strangers.
Really, Sir, it is amusing to compare the manner in which the
question of Catholic emancipation was argued formerly by some
gentlemen with the manner in which the question of Jew
emancipation is argued by the same gentlemen now. When the
question was about Catholic emancipation, the cry was, "See how
restless, how versatile, how encroaching, how insinuating, is the
spirit of the Church of Rome. See how her priests compass earth
and sea to make one proselyte, how indefatigably they toil, how
attentively they study the weak and strong parts of every
character, how skilfully they employ literature, arts, sciences,
as engines for the propagation of their faith. You find them in
every region and under every disguise, collating manuscripts in
the Bodleian, fixing telescopes in the observatory of Pekin,
teaching the use of the plough and the spinning-wheel to the
savages of Paraguay. Will you give power to the members of a
Church so busy, so aggressive, so insatiable?" Well, now the
question is about people who never try to seduce any stranger to
join them, and who do not wish anybody to be of their faith who
is not also of their blood. And now you exclaim, "Will you give
power to the members of a sect which remains sullenly apart from
other sects, which does not invite, nay, which hardly ever admits
neophytes?" The truth is, that bigotry will never want a
pretence. Whatever the sect be which it is proposed to tolerate,
the peculiarities of that sect will, for the time, be pronounced
by intolerant men to be the most odious and dangerous that can be
conceived. As to the Jews, that they are unsocial as respects
religion is true; and so much the better: for, surely, as
Christians, we cannot wish that they should bestir themselves to
pervert us from our own faith. But that the Jews would be
unsocial members of the civil community, if the civil community
did its duty by them, has never been proved. My right honourable
friend who made the motion which we are discussing has produced a
great body of evidence to show that they have been grossly
misrepresented; and that evidence has not been refuted by my
honourable friend the Member for the University of Oxford. But
what if it were true that the Jews are unsocial? What if it were
true that they do not regard England as their country? Would not
the treatment which they have undergone explain and excuse their
antipathy to the society in which they live? Has not similar
antipathy often been felt by persecuted Christians to the society
which persecuted them? While the bloody code of Elizabeth was
enforced against the English Roman Catholics, what was the
patriotism of Roman Catholics? Oliver Cromwell said that in his
time they were Espaniolised. At a later period it might have
been said that they were Gallicised. It was the same with the
Calvinists. What more deadly enemies had France in the days of
Louis the Fourteenth than the persecuted Huguenots? But would
any rational man infer from these facts that either the Roman
Catholic as such, or the Calvinist as such, is incapable of
loving the land of his birth? If England were now invaded by
Roman Catholics, how many English Roman Catholics would go over
to the invader? If France were now attacked by a Protestant
enemy, how many French Protestants would lend him help? Why not
try what effect would be produced on the Jews by that tolerant
policy which has made the English Roman Catholic a good
Englishman, and the French Calvinist a good Frenchman?
Another charge has been brought against the Jews, not by my
honourable friend the Member for the University of Oxford--he has
too much learning and too much good feeling to make such a
charge--but by the honourable Member for Oldham, who has, I am
sorry to see, quitted his place. The honourable Member for
Oldham tells us that the Jews are naturally a mean race, a sordid
race, a money-getting race; that they are averse to all
honourable callings; that they neither sow nor reap; that they
have neither flocks nor herds; that usury is the only pursuit for
which they are fit; that they are destitute of all elevated and
amiable sentiments. Such, Sir, has in every age been the
reasoning of bigots. They never fail to plead in justification
of persecution the vices which persecution has engendered.
England has been to the Jews less than half a country; and we
revile them because they do not feel for England more than a half
patriotism. We treat them as slaves, and wonder that they do not
regard us as brethren. We drive them to mean occupations, and
then reproach them for not embracing honourable professions. We
long forbade them to possess land; and we complain that they
chiefly occupy themselves in trade. We shut them out from all
the paths of ambition; and then we despise them for taking refuge
in avarice. During many ages we have, in all our dealings with
them, abused our immense superiority of force; and then we are
disgusted because they have recourse to that cunning which is the
natural and universal defence of the weak against the violence of
the strong. But were they always a mere money-changing, money-
getting, money-hoarding race? Nobody knows better than my
honourable friend the Member for the University of Oxford that
there is nothing in their national character which unfits them
for the highest duties of citizens. He knows that, in the
infancy of civilisation, when our island was as savage as New
Guinea, when letters and arts were still unknown to Athens, when
scarcely a thatched hut stood on what was afterwards the site of
Rome, this contemned people had their fenced cities and cedar
palaces, their splendid Temple, their fleets of merchant ships,
their schools of sacred learning, their great statesmen and
soldiers, their natural philosophers, their historians and their
poets. What nation ever contended more manfully against
overwhelming odds for its independence and religion? What nation
ever, in its last agonies, gave such signal proofs of what may be
accomplished by a brave despair? And if, in the course of many
centuries, the oppressed descendants of warriors and sages have
degenerated from the qualities of their fathers, if, while
excluded from the blessings of law, and bowed down under the yoke
of slavery, they have contracted some of the vices of outlaws and
of slaves, shall we consider this as matter of reproach to them?
Shall we not rather consider it as matter of shame and remorse to
ourselves? Let us do justice to them. Let us open to them the
door of the House of Commons. Let us open to them every career
in which ability and energy can be displayed. Till we have done
this, let us not presume to say that there is no genius among the
countrymen of Isaiah, no heroism among the descendants of the
Maccabees.
Sir, in supporting the motion of my honourable friend, I am, I
firmly believe, supporting the honour and the interests of the
Christian religion. I should think that I insulted that religion
if I said that it cannot stand unaided by intolerant laws.
Without such laws it was established, and without such laws it
may be maintained. It triumphed over the superstitions of the
most refined and of the most savage nations, over the graceful
mythology of Greece and the bloody idolatry of the Northern
forests. It prevailed over the power and policy of the Roman
empire. It tamed the barbarians by whom that empire was
overthrown. But all these victories were gained not by the help
of intolerance, but in spite of the opposition of intolerance.
The whole history of Christianity proves that she has little
indeed to fear from persecution as a foe, but much to fear from
persecution as an ally. May she long continue to bless our
country with her benignant influence, strong in her sublime
philosophy, strong in her spotless morality, strong in those
internal and external evidences to which the most powerful and
comprehensive of human intellects have yielded assent, the last
solace of those who have outlived every earthly hope, the last
restraint of those who are raised above every earthly fear! But
let not us, mistaking her character and her interests, fight the
battle of truth with the weapons of error, and endeavour to
support by oppression that religion which first taught the human
race the great lesson of universal charity.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 10TH OF JULY
1833.
On Wednesday, the tenth of July 1833, Mr Charles Grant, President
of the Board of Control, moved that the Bill for effecting an
arrangement with the India Company, and for the better government
of His Majesty's Indian territories, should be read a second
time. The motion was carried without a division, but not without
a long debate, in the course of which the following Speech was
made.
Having, while this bill was in preparation, enjoyed the fullest
and kindest confidence of my right honourable friend, the
President of the Board of Control, agreeing with him completely
in all those views which on a former occasion he so luminously
and eloquently developed, having shared his anxieties, and
feeling that in some degree I share his responsibility, I am
naturally desirous to obtain the attention of the House while I
attempt to defend the principles of the proposed arrangement. I
wish that I could promise to be very brief; but the subject is so
extensive that I will only promise to condense what I have to say
as much as I can.
I rejoice, Sir, that I am completely dispensed, by the turn which
our debates have taken, from the necessity of saying anything in
favour of one part of our plan, the opening of the China trade.
No voice, I believe, has yet been raised here in support of the
monopoly. On that subject all public men of all parties seem to
be agreed. The resolution proposed by the Ministers has received
the unanimous assent of both Houses, and the approbation of the
whole kingdom. I will not, therefore, Sir, detain you by
vindicating what no gentleman has yet ventured to attack, but
will proceed to call your attention to those effects which this
great commercial revolution necessarily produced on the system of
Indian government and finance.
The China trade is to be opened. Reason requires this. Public
opinion requires it. The Government of the Duke of Wellington
felt the necessity as strongly as the Government of Lord Grey.
No Minister, Whig or Tory, could have been found to propose a
renewal of the monopoly. No parliament, reformed or unreformed,
would have listened to such a proposition. But though the
opening of the trade was a matter concerning which the public had
long made up its mind, the political consequences which must
necessarily follow from the opening of the trade seem to me to be
even now little understood. The language which I have heard in
almost every circle where the subject was discussed was this:
"Take away the monopoly, and leave the government of India to the
Company:" a very short and convenient way of settling one of the
most complicated questions that ever a legislature had to
consider. The honourable Member for Sheffield (Mr Buckingham.),
though not disposed to retain the Company as an organ of
government, has repeatedly used language which proves that he
shares in the general misconception. The fact is that the
abolition of the monopoly rendered it absolutely necessary to
make a fundamental change in the constitution of that great
Corporation.
The Company had united in itself two characters, the character of
trader and the character of sovereign. Between the trader and
the sovereign there was a long and complicated account, almost
every item of which furnished matter for litigation. While the
monopoly continued, indeed, litigation was averted. The effect
of the monopoly was, to satisfy the claims both of commerce and
of territory, at the expense of a third party, the English
people: to secure at once funds for the dividend of the
stockholder and funds for the government of the Indian Empire, by
means of a heavy tax on the tea consumed in this country. But,
when the third party would no longer bear this charge, all the
great financial questions which had, at the cost of that third
party, been kept in abeyance, were opened in an instant. The
connection between the Company in its mercantile capacity, and
the same Company in its political capacity, was dissolved. Even
if the Company were permitted, as has been suggested, to govern
India, and at the same time to trade with China, no advances
would be made from the profits of its Chinese trade for the
support of its Indian government. It was in consideration of the
exclusive privilege that the Company had hitherto been required
to make those advances; it was by the exclusive privilege that
the Company had been enabled to make them. When that privilege
was taken away, it would be unreasonable in the legislature to
impose such an obligation, and impossible for the Company to
fulfil it. The whole system of loans from commerce to territory,
and repayments from territory to commerce, must cease. Each
party must rest altogether on its own resources. It was
therefore absolutely necessary to ascertain what resources each
party possessed, to bring the long and intricate account between
them to a close, and to assign to each a fair portion of assets
and liabilities. There was vast property. How much of that
property was applicable to purposes of state? How much was
applicable to a dividend? There were debts to the amount of many
millions. Which of these were the debts of the government that
ruled at Calcutta? Which of the great mercantile house that
bought tea at Canton? Were the creditors to look to the land
revenues of India for their money? Or, were they entitled to put
executions into the warehouses behind Bishopsgate Street?
There were two ways of settling these questions--adjudication and
compromise. The difficulties of adjudication were great; I think
insuperable. Whatever acuteness and diligence could do has been
done. One person in particular, whose talents and industry
peculiarly fitted him for such investigations, and of whom I can
never think without regret, Mr Hyde Villiers, devoted himself to
the examination with an ardour and a perseverance, which, I
believe, shortened a life most valuable to his country and to his
friends. The assistance of the most skilful accountants has been
called in. But the difficulties are such as no accountant,
however skilful, could possibly remove. The difficulties are not
arithmetical, but political. They arise from the constitution of
the Company, from the long and intimate union of the commercial
and imperial characters in one body. Suppose that the treasurer
of a charity were to mix up the money which he receives on
account of the charity with his own private rents and dividends,
to pay the whole into his bank to his own private account, to
draw it out again by cheques in exactly the same form when he
wanted it for his private expenses, and when he wanted it for the
purposes of his public trust. Suppose that he were to continue
to act thus till he was himself ignorant whether he were in
advance or in arrear; and suppose that many years after his death
a question were to arise whether his estate were in debt to the
charity or the charity in debt to his estate. Such is the
question which is now before us, with this important difference;
that the accounts of an individual could not be in such a state
unless he had been guilty of fraud, or of that gross negligence
which is scarcely less culpable than fraud, and that the accounts
of the Company were brought into this state by circumstances of a
very peculiar kind, by circumstances unparalleled in the history
of the world.
It is a mistake to suppose that the Company was a merely
commercial body till the middle of the last century. Commerce
was its chief object; but in order to enable it to pursue that
object, it had been, like the other Companies which were its
rivals, like the Dutch India Company, like the French India
Company, invested from a very early period with political
functions. More than a hundred and twenty years ago, the Company
was in miniature precisely what it now is. It was intrusted with
the very highest prerogatives of sovereignty. It had its forts,
and its white captains, and its black sepoys; it had its civil
and criminal tribunals; it was authorised to proclaim martial
law; it sent ambassadors to the native governments, and concluded
treaties with them; it was Zemindar of several districts, and
within those districts, like other Zemindars of the first class,
it exercised the powers of a sovereign, even to the infliction of
capital punishment on the Hindoos within its jurisdiction. It is
incorrect, therefore, to say, that the Company was at first a
mere trader, and has since become a sovereign. It was at first a
great trader and a petty prince. The political functions at
first attracted little notice, because they were merely auxiliary
to the commercial functions. By degrees, however, the political
functions became more and more important. The Zemindar became a
great nabob, became sovereign of all India; the two hundred
sepoys became two hundred thousand. This change was gradually
wrought, and was not immediately comprehended. It was natural
that, while the political functions of the Company were merely
auxiliary to its commerce, the political accounts should have
been mixed up with the commercial accounts. It was equally
natural that this mode of keeping accounts, having once been
established, should have remained unaltered; and the more so, as
the change in the situation of the Company, though rapid, was not
sudden. It is impossible to name any one day, or any one year,
as the day or the year when the Company became a great potentate.
It has been the fashion indeed to fix on the year 1765, the year
in which the Mogul issued a commission authorising the Company to
administer the revenues of Bengal, Bahar, and Orissa, as the
precise date of the accession of this singular body to
sovereignty. I am utterly at a loss to understand why this epoch
should be selected. Long before 1765 the Company had the reality
of political power. Long before that year, they made a Nabob of
Arcot; they made and unmade Nabobs of Bengal; they humbled the
Vizier of Oude; they braved the Emperor of Hindostan himself;
more than half the revenues of Bengal were, under one pretence or
another, administered by them. And after the grant, the Company
was not, in form and name, an independent power. It was merely a
minister of the Court of Delhi. Its coinage bore the name of
Shah Alam. The inscription which, down to the time of the
Marquess of Hastings, appeared on the seal of the Governor-
General, declared that great functionary to be the slave of the
Mogul. Even to this day we have never formally deposed the King
of Delhi. The Company contents itself with being Mayor of the
Palace, while the Roi Faineant is suffered to play at being a
sovereign. In fact, it was considered, both by Lord Clive and by
Warren Hastings, as a point of policy to leave the character of
the Company thus undefined, in order that the English might treat
the princes in whose names they governed as realities or
nonentities, just as might be most convenient.
Thus the transformation of the Company from a trading body, which
possessed some sovereign prerogatives for the purposes of trade,
into a sovereign body, the trade of which was auxiliary to its
sovereignty, was effected by degrees and under disguise. It is
not strange, therefore, that the mercantile and political
transactions of this great corporation should be entangled
together in inextricable complication. The commercial
investments have been purchased out of the revenues of the
empire. The expenses of war and government have been defrayed
out of the profits of the trade. Commerce and territory have
contributed to the improvement of the same spot of land, to the
repairs of the same building. Securities have been given in
precisely the same form for money which has been borrowed for
purposes of State, and for money which has been borrowed for
purposes of traffic. It is easy, indeed,--and this is a
circumstance which has, I think, misled some gentlemen,--it is
easy to see what part of the assets of the Company appears in a
commercial form, and what part appears in a political or
territorial form. But this is not the question. Assets which
are commercial in form may be territorial as respects the right
of property; assets which are territorial in form may be
commercial as respects the right of property. A chest of tea is
not necessarily commercial property; it may have been bought out
of the territorial revenue. A fort is not necessarily
territorial property; it may stand on ground which the Company
bought a hundred years ago out of their commercial profits.
Adjudication, if by adjudication be meant decision according to
some known rule of law, was out of the question. To leave
matters like these to be determined by the ordinary maxims of our
civil jurisprudence would have been the height of absurdity and
injustice. For example, the home bond debt of the Company, it is
believed, was incurred partly for political and partly for
commercial purposes. But there is no evidence which would enable
us to assign to each branch its proper share. The bonds all run
in the same form; and a court of justice would, therefore, of
course, either lay the whole burthen on the proprietors, or lay
the whole on the territory. We have legal opinions, very
respectable legal opinions, to the effect, that in strictness of
law the territory is not responsible, and that the commercial
assets are responsible for every farthing of the debts which were
incurred for the government and defence of India. But though
this may be, and I believe is, law, it is, I am sure, neither
reason nor justice. On the other hand, it is urged by the
advocates of the Company, that some valuable portions of the
territory are the property of that body in its commercial
capacity; that Calcutta, for example, is the private estate of
the Company; that the Company holds the island of Bombay, in free
and common socage, as of the Manor of East Greenwich. I will not
pronounce any opinion on these points. I have considered them
enough to see that there is quite difficulty enough in them to
exercise all the ingenuity of all the lawyers in the kingdom for
twenty years. But the fact is, Sir, that the municipal law was
not made for controversies of this description. The existence of
such a body as this gigantic corporation, this political monster
of two natures, subject in one hemisphere, sovereign in another,
had never been contemplated by the legislators or judges of
former ages. Nothing but grotesque absurdity and atrocious
injustice could have been the effect, if the claims and
liabilities of such a body had been settled according to the
rules of Westminster Hall, if the maxims of conveyancers had been
applied to the titles by which flourishing cities and provinces
are held, or the maxims of the law merchant to those promissory
notes which are the securities for a great National Debt, raised
for the purpose of exterminating the Pindarrees and humbling the
Burmese.
It was, as I have said, absolutely impossible to bring the
question between commerce and territory to a satisfactory
adjudication; and I must add that, even if the difficulties which
I have mentioned could have been surmounted, even if there had
been reason to hope that a satisfactory adjudication could have
been obtained, I should still have wished to avoid that course.
I think it desirable that the Company should continue to have a
share in the government of India; and it would evidently have
been impossible, pending a litigation between commerce and
territory, to leave any political power to the Company. It would
clearly have been the duty of those who were charged with the
superintendence of India, to be the patrons of India throughout
that momentous litigation, to scrutinise with the utmost severity
every claim which might be made on the Indian revenues, and to
oppose, with energy and perseverance, every such claim, unless
its justice were manifest. If the Company was to be engaged in a
suit for many millions, in a suit which might last for many
years, against the Indian territory, could we entrust the Company
with the government of that territory? Could we put the
plaintiff in the situation of prochain ami of the defendant?
Could we appoint governors who would have an interest opposed in
the most direct manner to the interest of the governed, whose
stock would have been raised in value by every decision which
added to the burthens of their subjects, and depressed by every
decision which diminished those burthens? It would be absurd to
suppose that they would efficiently defend our Indian Empire
against the claims which they were themselves bringing against
it; and it would be equally absurd to give the government of the
Indian Empire to those who could not be trusted to defend its
interests.
Seeing, then, that it was most difficult, if not wholly
impossible, to resort to adjudication between commerce and
territory, seeing that, if recourse were had to adjudication, it
would be necessary to make a complete revolution in the whole
constitution of India, the Government has proposed a compromise.
That compromise, with some modifications which did not in the
slightest degree affect its principle, and which, while they gave
satisfaction to the Company, will eventually lay no additional
burthen on the territory, has been accepted. It has, like all
other compromises, been loudly censured by violent partisans on
both sides. It has been represented by some as far too
favourable to the Company, and by others as most unjust to the
Company. Sir, I own that we cannot prove that either of these
accusations is unfounded. It is of the very essence of our case
that we should not be able to show that we have assigned, either
to commerce or to territory, its precise due. For our principal
reason for recommending a compromise was our full conviction that
it was absolutely impossible to ascertain with precision what was
due to commerce and what was due to territory. It is not strange
that some people should accuse us of robbing the Company, and
others of conferring a vast boon on the Company, at the expense
of India: for we have proposed a middle course, on the very
ground that there was a chance of a result much more favourable
to the Company than our arrangement, and a chance also of a
result much less favourable. If the questions pending between
the Company and India had been decided as the ardent supporters
of the Company predicted, India would, if I calculate rightly,
have paid eleven millions more than she will now have to pay. If
those questions had been decided as some violent enemies of the
Company predicted, that great body would have been utterly
ruined. The very meaning of compromise is that each party gives
up his chance of complete success, in order to be secured against
the chance of utter failure. And, as men of sanguine minds
always overrate the chances in their own favour, every fair
compromise is sure to be severely censured on both sides. I
conceive that, in a case so dark and complicated as this, the
compromise which we recommend is sufficiently vindicated, if it
cannot be proved to be unfair. We are not bound to prove it to
be fair. For it would have been unnecessary for us to resort to
compromise at all if we had been in possession of evidence which
would have enabled us to pronounce, with certainty, what claims
were fair and what were unfair. It seems to me that we have
acted with due consideration for every party. The dividend which
we give to the proprietors is precisely the same dividend which
they have been receiving during forty years, and which they have
expected to receive permanently. The price of their stock bears
at present the same proportion to the price of other stock which
it bore four or five years ago, before the anxiety and excitement
which the late negotiations naturally produced had begun to
operate. As to the territory, on the other hand, it is true
that, if the assets which are now in a commercial form should not
produce a fund sufficient to pay the debts and dividend of the
Company, the territory must stand to the loss and pay the
difference. But in return for taking this risk, the territory
obtains an immediate release from claims to the amount of many
millions. I certainly do not believe that all those claims could
have been substantiated; but I know that very able men think
differently. And, if only one-fourth of the sum demanded had
been awarded to the Company, India would have lost more than the
largest sum which, as it seems to me, she can possibly lose under
the proposed arrangement.
In a pecuniary point of view, therefore, I conceive that we can
defend the measure as it affects the territory. But to the
territory the pecuniary question is of secondary importance. If
we have made a good pecuniary bargain for India, but a bad
political bargain, if we have saved three or four millions to the
finances of that country, and given to it, at the same time,
pernicious institutions, we shall indeed have been practising a
most ruinous parsimony. If, on the other hand, it shall be found
that we have added fifty or a hundred thousand pounds a-year to
the expenditure of an empire which yields a revenue of twenty
millions, but that we have at the same time secured to that
empire, as far as in us lies, the blessings of good government,
we shall have no reason to be ashamed of our profusion. I hope
and believe that India will have to pay nothing. But on the most
unfavourable supposition that can be made, she will not have to
pay so much to the Company as she now pays annually to a single
state pageant, to the titular Nabob of Bengal, for example, or
the titular King of Delhi. What she pays to these nominal
princes, who, while they did anything, did mischief, and who now
do nothing, she may well consent to pay to her real rulers, if
she receives from them, in return, efficient protection and good
legislation.
We come then to the great question. Is it desirable to retain
the Company as an organ of government for India? I think that it
is desirable. The question is, I acknowledge, beset with
difficulties. We have to solve one of the hardest problems in
politics. We are trying to make brick without straw, to bring a
clean thing out of an unclean, to give a good government to a
people to whom we cannot give a free government. In this
country, in any neighbouring country, it is easy to frame
securities against oppression. In Europe, you have the materials
of good government everywhere ready to your hands. The people
are everywhere perfectly competent to hold some share, not in
every country an equal share, but some share of political power.
If the question were, What is the best mode of securing good
government in Europe? the merest smatterer in politics would
answer, representative institutions. In India you cannot have
representative institutions. Of all the innumerable speculators
who have offered their suggestions on Indian politics, not a
single one, as far as I know, however democratical his opinions
may be, has ever maintained the possibility of giving, at the
present time, such institutions to India. One gentleman,
extremely well acquainted with the affairs of our Eastern Empire,
a most valuable servant of the Company, and the author of a
History of India, which, though certainly not free from faults,
is, I think, on the whole, the greatest historical work which has
appeared in our language since that of Gibbon, I mean Mr Mill,
was examined on this point. That gentleman is well known to be a
very bold and uncompromising politician. He has written
strongly, far too strongly I think, in favour of pure democracy.
He has gone so far as to maintain that no nation which has not a
representative legislature, chosen by universal suffrage, enjoys
security against oppression. But when he was asked before the
Committee of last year, whether he thought representative
government practicable in India, his answer was, "utterly out of
the question." This, then, is the state in which we are. We
have to frame a good government for a country into which, by
universal acknowledgment, we cannot introduce those institutions
which all our habits, which all the reasonings of European
philosophers, which all the history of our own part of the world
would lead us to consider as the one great security for good
government. We have to engraft on despotism those blessings
which are the natural fruits of liberty. In these circumstances,
Sir, it behoves us to be cautious, even to the verge of timidity.
The light of political science and of history are withdrawn: we
are walking in darkness: we do not distinctly see whither we are
going. It is the wisdom of a man, so situated, to feel his way,
and not to plant his foot till he is well assured that the ground
before him is firm.
Some things, however, in the midst of this obscurity, I can see
with clearness. I can see, for example, that it is desirable
that the authority exercised in this country over the Indian
government should be divided between two bodies, between a
minister or a board appointed by the Crown, and some other body
independent of the Crown. If India is to be a dependency of
England, to be at war with our enemies, to be at peace with our
allies, to be protected by the English navy from maritime
aggression, to have a portion of the English army mixed with its
sepoys, it plainly follows that the King, to whom the
Constitution gives the direction of foreign affairs, and the
command of the military and naval forces, ought to have a share
in the direction of the Indian government. Yet, on the other
hand, that a revenue of twenty millions a year, an army of two
hundred thousand men, a civil service abounding with lucrative
situations, should be left to the disposal of the Crown without
any check whatever, is what no minister, I conceive, would
venture to propose. This House is indeed the check provided by
the Constitution on the abuse of the royal prerogative. But that
this House is, or is likely ever to be, an efficient check on
abuses practised in India, I altogether deny. We have, as I
believe we all feel, quite business enough. If we were to
undertake the task of looking into Indian affairs as we look into
British affairs, if we were to have Indian budgets and Indian
estimates, if we were to go into the Indian currency question and
the Indian Bank Charter, if to our disputes about Belgium and
Holland, Don Pedro and Don Miguel, were to be added disputes
about the debts of the Guicowar and the disorders of Mysore, the
ex-king of the Afghans and the Maharajah Runjeet Sing; if we were
to have one night occupied by the embezzlements of the Benares
mint, and another by the panic in the Calcutta money market; if
the questions of Suttee or no Suttee, Pilgrim tax or no Pilgrim
tax, Ryotwary or Zemindary, half Batta or whole Batta, were to be
debated at the same length at which we have debated Church reform
and the assessed taxes, twenty-four hours a day and three hundred
and sixty-five days a year would be too short a time for the
discharge of our duties. The House, it is plain, has not the
necessary time to settle these matters; nor has it the necessary
knowledge; nor has it the motives to acquire that knowledge. The
late change in its constitution has made it, I believe, a much
more faithful representative of the English people. But it is as
far as ever from being a representative of the Indian people. A
broken head in Cold Bath Fields produces a greater sensation
among us than three pitched battles in India. A few weeks ago we
had to decide on a claim brought by an individual against the
revenues of India. If it had been an English question the walls
would scarcely have held the Members who would have flocked to
the division. It was an Indian question; and we could scarcely,
by dint of supplication, make a House. Even when my right
honourable friend, the President of the Board of Control, gave
his able and interesting explanation of the plan which he
intended to propose for the government of a hundred millions of
human beings, the attendance was not so large as I have often
seen it on a turnpike bill or a railroad bill.
I then take these things as proved, that the Crown must have a
certain authority over India, that there must be an efficient
check on the authority of the Crown, and that the House of
Commons cannot be that efficient check. We must then find some
other body to perform that important office. We have such a
body, the Company. Shall we discard it?
It is true that the power of the Company is an anomaly in
politics. It is strange, very strange, that a joint-stock
society of traders, a society, the shares of which are daily
passed from hand to hand, a society, the component parts of which
are perpetually changing, a society, which, judging a priori from
its constitution, we should have said was as little fitted for
imperial functions as the Merchant Tailors' Company or the New
River Company, should be intrusted with the sovereignty of a
larger population, the disposal of a larger clear revenue, the
command of a larger army, than are under the direct management of
the Executive Government of the United Kingdom. But what
constitution can we give to our Indian Empire which shall not be
strange, which shall not be anomalous? That Empire is itself the
strangest of all political anomalies. That a handful of
adventurers from an island in the Atlantic should have subjugated
a vast country divided from the place of their birth by half the
globe; a country which at no very distant period was merely the
subject of fable to the nations of Europe; a country never before
violated by the most renowned of Western conquerors; a country
which Trajan never entered; a country lying beyond the point
where the phalanx of Alexander refused to proceed; that we should
govern a territory ten thousand miles from us, a territory larger
and more populous than France, Spain, Italy, and Germany put
together, a territory, the present clear revenue of which exceeds
the present clear revenue of any state in the world, France
excepted; a territory inhabited by men differing from us in race,
colour, language, manners, morals, religion; these are prodigies
to which the world has seen nothing similar. Reason is
confounded. We interrogate the past in vain. General rules are
useless where the whole is one vast exception. The Company is an
anomaly; but it is part of a system where every thing is anomaly.
It is the strangest of all governments; but it is designed for
the strangest of all empires.
If we discard the Company, we must find a substitute: and, take
what substitute we may, we shall find ourselves unable to give
any reason for believing that the body which we have put in the
room of the Company is likely to acquit itself of its duties
better than the Company. Commissioners appointed by the King
during pleasure would be no check on the Crown; Commissioners
appointed by the King or by Parliament for life would always be
appointed by the political party which might be uppermost, and if
a change of administration took place, would harass the new
Government with the most vexatious opposition. The plan
suggested by the right honourable Gentleman, the Member for
Montgomeryshire (Mr Charles Wynn.), is I think the very worst
that I have ever heard. He would have Directors nominated every
four years by the Crown. Is it not plain that these Directors
would always be appointed from among the supporters of the
Ministry for the time being; that their situations would depend
on the permanence of that Ministry; that therefore all their
power and patronage would be employed for the purpose of propping
that Ministry, and, in case of a change, for the purpose of
molesting those who might succeed to power; that they would be
subservient while their friends were in, and factious when their
friends were out? How would Lord Grey's Ministry have been
situated if the whole body of Directors had been nominated by the
Duke of Wellington in 1830. I mean no imputation on the Duke of
Wellington. If the present ministers had to nominate Directors
for four years, they would, I have no doubt, nominate men who
would give no small trouble to the Duke of Wellington if he were
to return to office. What we want is a body independent of the
Government, and no more than independent; not a tool of the
Treasury, not a tool of the opposition. No new plan which I have
heard proposed would give us such a body. The Company, strange
as its constitution may be, is such a body. It is, as a
corporation, neither Whig nor Tory, neither high-church nor low-
church. It cannot be charged with having been for or against the
Catholic Bill, for or against the Reform Bill. It has constantly
acted with a view not to English politics, but to Indian
politics. We have seen the country convulsed by faction. We
have seen Ministers driven from office by this House, Parliament
dissolved in anger, general elections of unprecedented
turbulence, debates of unprecedented interest. We have seen the
two branches of the Legislature placed in direct opposition to
each other. We have seen the advisers of the Crown dismissed one
day, and brought back the next day on the shoulders of the
people. And amidst all these agitating events the Company has
preserved strict and unsuspected neutrality. This is, I think an
inestimable advantage, and it is an advantage which we must
altogether forego, if we consent to adopt any of the schemes
which I have heard proposed on the other side of the House.
We must judge of the Indian government, as of all other
governments, by its practical effects. According to the
honourable Member for Sheffield, India is ill governed; and the
whole fault is with the Company. Innumerable accusations, great
and small, are brought by him against the Directors. They are
fond of war: they are fond of dominion: the taxation is
burthensome: the laws are undigested: the roads are rough: the
post goes on foot: and for everything the Company is answerable.
From the dethronement of the Mogul princes to the mishaps of Sir
Charles Metcalfe's courier, every disaster that has taken place
in the East during sixty years is laid to the charge of this
Corporation. And the inference is, that all the power which they
possess ought to be taken out of their hands, and transferred at
once to the Crown.
Now, Sir, it seems to me that, for all the evils which the
honourable Gentleman has so pathetically recounted, the Ministers
of the Crown are as much to blame as the Company; nay, much more
so: for the Board of Control could, without the consent of the
Directors, have redressed those evils; and the Directors most
certainly could not have redressed them without the consent of
the Board of Control. Take the case of that frightful grievance
which seems to have made the deepest impression on the mind of
the honourable Gentleman, the slowness of the mail. Why, Sir, if
my right honourable friend, the President of our Board thought
fit, he might direct me to write to the Court and require them to
frame a dispatch on that subject. If the Court disobeyed, he
might himself frame a dispatch ordering Lord William Bentinck to
put the dawks all over Bengal on horseback. If the Court refused
to send out this dispatch, the Board could apply to the King's
Bench for a mandamus. If, on the other hand, the Directors
wished to accelerate the journeys of the mail, and the Board were
adverse to the project, the Directors could do nothing at all.
For all measures of internal policy the servants of the King are
at least as deeply responsible as the Company. For all measures
of foreign policy the servants of the King, and they alone are
responsible. I was surprised to hear the honourable Gentleman
accuse the Directors of insatiable ambition and rapacity, when he
must know that no act of aggression on any native state can be
committed by the Company without the sanction of the Board, and
that, in fact, the Board has repeatedly approved of warlike
measures which were strenuously opposed by the Company. He must
know, in particular, that, during the energetic and splendid
administration of the Marquess of Wellesley, the company was all
for peace, and the Board all for conquest. If a line of conduct
which the honourable Gentleman thinks unjustifiable has been
followed by the Ministers of the Crown in spite of the
remonstrances of the Directors, this is surely a strange reason
for turning off the Directors, and giving the whole power
unchecked to the Crown.
The honourable Member tells us that India, under the present
system, is not so rich and flourishing as she was two hundred
years ago. Really, Sir, I doubt whether we are in possession of
sufficient data to enable us to form a judgment on that point.
But the matter is of little importance. We ought to compare
India under our government, not with India under Acbar and his
immediate successors, but with India as we found it. The
calamities through which that country passed during the interval
between the fall of the Mogul power and the establishment of the
English supremacy were sufficient to throw the people back whole
centuries. It would surely be unjust to say, that Alfred was a
bad king because Britain, under his government, was not so rich
or so civilised as in the time of the Romans.
In what state, then, did we find India? And what have we made
India? We found society throughout that vast country in a state
to which history scarcely furnishes a parallel. The nearest
parallel would, perhaps, be the state of Europe during the fifth
century. The Mogul empire in the time of the successors of
Aurungzebe, like the Roman empire in the time of the successors
of Theodosius, was sinking under the vices of a bad internal
administration, and under the assaults of barbarous invaders. At
Delhi, as at Ravenna, there was a mock sovereign, immured in a
gorgeous state prison. He was suffered to indulge in every
sensual pleasure. He was adored with servile prostrations. He
assumed and bestowed the most magnificent titles. But, in fact,
he was a mere puppet in the hands of some ambitious subject.
While the Honorii and Augustuli of the East, surrounded by their
fawning eunuchs, reveled and dozed without knowing or caring what
might pass beyond the walls of their palace gardens, the
provinces had ceased to respect a government which could neither
punish nor protect them. Society was a chaos. Its restless and
shifting elements formed themselves every moment into some new
combination, which the next moment dissolved. In the course of a
single generation a hundred dynasties grew up, flourished,
decayed, were extinguished, were forgotten. Every adventurer who
could muster a troop of horse might aspire to a throne. Every
palace was every year the scene of conspiracies, treasons,
revolutions, parricides. Meanwhile a rapid succession of Alarics
and Attilas passed over the defenceless empire. A Persian
invader penetrated to Delhi, and carried back in triumph the most
precious treasures of the House of Tamerlane. The Afghan soon
followed by the same track, to glean whatever the Persian had
spared. The Jauts established themselves on the Jumna. The
Seiks devastated Lahore. Every part of India, from Tanjore to
the Himalayas, was laid under contribution by the Mahrattas. The
people were ground down to the dust by the oppressor without and
the oppressor within, by the robber from whom the Nabob was
unable to protect them, by the Nabob who took whatever the robber
had left to them. All the evils of despotism, and all the evils
of anarchy, pressed at once on that miserable race. They knew
nothing of government but its exactions. Desolation was in their
imperial cities, and famine all along the banks of their broad
and redundant rivers. It seemed that a few more years would
suffice to efface all traces of the opulence and civilisation of
an earlier age.
Such was the state of India when the Company began to take part
in the disputes of its ephemeral sovereigns. About eighty years
have elapsed since we appeared as auxiliaries in a contest
between two rival families for the sovereignty of a small corner
of the Peninsula. From that moment commenced a great, a
stupendous process, the reconstruction of a decomposed society.
Two generations have passed away; and the process is complete.
The scattered fragments of the empire of Aurungzebe have been
united in an empire stronger and more closely knit together than
that which Aurungzebe ruled. The power of the new sovereigns
penetrates their dominions more completely, and is far more
implicitly obeyed, than was that of the proudest princes of the
Mogul dynasty.
It is true that the early history of this great revolution is
chequered with guilt and shame. It is true that the founders of
our Indian Empire too often abused the strength which they
derived from superior energy and superior knowledge. It is true
that, with some of the highest qualities of the race from which
they sprang, they combined some of the worst defects of the race
over which they ruled. How should it have been otherwise? Born
in humble stations, accustomed to earn a slender maintenance by
obscure industry, they found themselves transformed in a few
months from clerks drudging over desks, or captains in marching
regiments, into statesmen and generals, with armies at their
command, with the revenues of kingdoms at their disposal, with
power to make and depose sovereigns at their pleasure. They were
what it was natural that men should be who had been raised by so
rapid an ascent to so dizzy an eminence, profuse and rapacious,
imperious and corrupt.
It is true, then, that there was too much foundation for the
representations of those satirists and dramatists who held up the
character of the English Nabob to the derision and hatred of a
former generation. It is true that some disgraceful intrigues,
some unjust and cruel wars, some instances of odious perfidy and
avarice, stain the annals of our Eastern Empire. It is true that
the duties of government and legislation were long wholly
neglected or carelessly performed. It is true that when the
conquerors at length began to apply themselves in earnest to the
discharge of their high functions, they committed the errors
natural to rulers who were but imperfectly acquainted with the
language and manners of their subjects. It is true that some
plans, which were dictated by the purest and most benevolent
feelings have not been attended by the desired success. It is
true that India suffers to this day from a heavy burden of
taxation and from a defective system of law. It is true, I fear,
that in those states which are connected with us by subsidiary
alliance, all the evils of oriental despotism have too frequently
shown themselves in their most loathsome and destructive form.
All this is true. Yet in the history and in the present state of
our Indian Empire I see ample reason for exultation and for a
good hope.
I see that we have established order where we found confusion. I
see that the petty dynasties which were generated by the
corruption of the great Mahometan Empire, and which, a century
ago, kept all India in constant agitation, have been quelled by
one overwhelming power. I see that the predatory tribes, which,
in the middle of the last century, passed annually over the
harvests of India with the destructive rapidity of a hurricane,
have quailed before the valour of a braver and sterner race, have
been vanquished, scattered, hunted to their strongholds, and
either extirpated by the English sword, or compelled to exchange
the pursuits of rapine for those of industry.
I look back for many years; and I see scarcely a trace of the
vices which blemished the splendid fame of the first conquerors
of Bengal. I see peace studiously preserved. I see faith
inviolably maintained towards feeble and dependent states. I see
confidence gradually infused into the minds of suspicious
neighbours. I see the horrors of war mitigated by the chivalrous
and Christian spirit of Europe. I see examples of moderation and
clemency, such as I should seek in vain in the annals of any
other victorious and dominant nation. I see captive tyrants,
whose treachery and cruelty might have excused a severe
retribution, living in security, comfort, and dignity, under the
protection of the government which they laboured to destroy.
I see a large body of civil and military functionaries resembling
in nothing but capacity and valour those adventurers who, seventy
years ago, came hither, laden with wealth and infamy, to parade
before our fathers the plundered treasures of Bengal and Tanjore.
I reflect with pride that to the doubtful splendour which
surrounds the memory of Hastings and of Clive, we can oppose the
spotless glory of Elphinstone and Munro. I contemplate with
reverence and delight the honourable poverty which is the
evidence of rectitude firmly maintained amidst strong
temptations. I rejoice to see my countrymen, after ruling
millions of subjects, after commanding victorious armies, after
dictating terms of peace at the gates of hostile capitals, after
administering the revenues of great provinces, after judging the
causes of wealthy Zemindars, after residing at the courts of
tributary Kings, return to their native land with no more than a
decent competence.
I see a government anxiously bent on the public good. Even in
its errors I recognise a paternal feeling towards the great
people committed to its charge. I see toleration strictly
maintained: yet I see bloody and degrading superstitions
gradually losing their power. I see the morality, the
philosophy, the taste of Europe, beginning to produce a salutary
effect on the hearts and understandings of our subjects. I see
the public mind of India, that public mind which we found debased
and contracted by the worst forms of political and religious
tyranny, expanding itself to just and noble views of the ends of
government and of the social duties of man.
I see evils: but I see the government actively employed in the
work of remedying those evils. The taxation is heavy; but the
work of retrenchment is unsparingly pursued. The mischiefs
arising from the system of subsidiary alliance are great: but
the rulers of India are fully aware of those mischiefs, and are
engaged in guarding against them. Wherever they now interfere
for the purpose of supporting a native government, they interfere
also for the purpose of reforming it.
Seeing these things, then, am I prepared to discard the Company
as an organ of government? I am not. Assuredly I will never
shrink from innovation where I see reason to believe that
innovation will be improvement. That the present Government does
not shrink from innovations which it considers as improvements
the bill now before the House sufficiently shows. But surely the
burden of the proof lies on the innovators. They are bound to
show that there is a fair probability of obtaining some advantage
before they call upon us to take up the foundations of the Indian
government. I have no superstitious veneration for the Court of
Directors or the Court of Proprietors. Find me a better Council:
find me a better constituent body: and I am ready for a change.
But of all the substitutes for the Company which have hitherto
been suggested, not one has been proved to be better than the
Company; and most of them I could, I think, easily prove to be
worse. Circumstances might force us to hazard a change. If the
Company were to refuse to accept of the government unless we
would grant pecuniary terms which I thought extravagant, or
unless we gave up the clauses in this bill which permit Europeans
to hold landed property and natives to hold office, I would take
them at their word. But I will not discard them in the mere rage
of experiment.
Do I call the government of India a perfect government? Very far
from it. No nation can be perfectly well governed till it is
competent to govern itself. I compare the Indian government with
other governments of the same class, with despotisms, with
military despotisms, with foreign military despotisms; and I find
none that approaches it in excellence. I compare it with the
government of the Roman provinces, with the government of the
Spanish colonies; and I am proud of my country and my age. Here
are a hundred millions of people under the absolute rule of a few
strangers, differing from them physically, differing from them
morally, mere Mamelukes, not born in the country which they rule,
not meaning to lay their bones in it. If you require me to make
this government as good as that of England, France, or the United
States of America, I own frankly that I can do no such thing.
Reasoning a priori, I should have come to the conclusion that
such a government must be a horrible tyranny. It is a source of
constant amazement to me that it is so good as I find it to be.
I will not, therefore, in a case in which I have neither
principles nor precedents to guide me, pull down the existing
system on account of its theoretical defects. For I know that
any system which I could put in its place would be equally
condemned by theory, while it would not be equally sanctioned by
experience.
Some change in the constitution of the Company was, as I have
shown, rendered inevitable by the opening of the China Trade; and
it was the duty of the Government to take care that the change
should not be prejudicial to India. There were many ways in
which the compromise between commerce and territory might have
been effected. We might have taken the assets, and paid a sum
down, leaving the Company to invest that sum as they chose. We
might have offered English security with a lower interest. We
might have taken the course which the late ministers designed to
take. They would have left the Company in possession of the
means of carrying on its trade in competition with private
merchants. My firm belief is that, if this course had been
taken, the Company must, in a very few years, have abandoned the
trade, or the trade would have ruined the Company. It was not,
however, solely or principally by regard for the interest of the
Company, or of English merchants generally, that the Government
was guided on this occasion. The course which appeared to us the
most likely to promote the interests of our Eastern Empire was to
make the proprietors of India stock creditors of the Indian
territory. Their interest will thus be in a great measure the
same with the interest of the people whom they are to rule.
Their income will depend on the revenues of their empire. The
revenues of their empire will depend on the manner in which the
affairs of that empire are administered. We furnish them with
the strongest motives to watch over the interests of the
cultivator and the trader, to maintain peace, to carry on with
vigour the work of retrenchment, to detect and punish extortion
and corruption. Though they live at a distance from India,
though few of them have ever seen or may ever see the people whom
they rule, they will have a great stake in the happiness of their
subjects. If their misgovernment should produce disorder in the
finances, they will themselves feel the effects of that disorder
in their own household expenses. I believe this to be, next to a
representative constitution, the constitution which is the best
security for good government. A representative constitution
India cannot at present have. And we have therefore, I think,
given her the best constitution of which she is capable.
One word as to the new arrangement which we propose with respect
to the patronage. It is intended to introduce the principle of
competition in the disposal of writerships; and from this change
I cannot but anticipate the happiest results. The civil servants
of the Company are undoubtedly a highly respectable body of men;
and in that body, as in every large body, there are some persons
of very eminent ability. I rejoice most cordially to see this.
I rejoice to see that the standard of morality is so high in
England, that intelligence is so generally diffused through
England, that young persons who are taken from the mass of
society, by favour and not by merit, and who are therefore only
fair samples of the mass, should, when placed in situations of
high importance, be so seldom found wanting. But it is not the
less true that India is entitled to the service of the best
talents which England can spare. That the average of
intelligence and virtue is very high in this country is matter
for honest exultation. But it is no reason for employing average
men where you can obtain superior men. Consider too, Sir, how
rapidly the public mind of India is advancing, how much attention
is already paid by the higher classes of the natives to those
intellectual pursuits on the cultivation of which the superiority
of the European race to the rest of mankind principally depends.
Surely, in such circumstances, from motives of selfish policy, if
from no higher motive, we ought to fill the magistracies of our
Eastern Empire with men who may do honour to their country, with
men who may represent the best part of the English nation. This,
Sir, is our object; and we believe that by the plan which is now
proposed this object will be attained. It is proposed that for
every vacancy in the civil service four candidates shall be
named, and the best candidate selected by examination. We
conceive that, under this system, the persons sent out will be
young men above par, young men superior either in talents or in
diligence to the mass. It is said, I know, that examinations in
Latin, in Greek, and in mathematics, are no tests of what men
will prove to be in life. I am perfectly aware that they are not
infallible tests: but that they are tests I confidently
maintain. Look at every walk of life, at this House, at the
other House, at the Bar, at the Bench, at the Church, and see
whether it be not true that those who attain high distinction in
the world were generally men who were distinguished in their
academic career. Indeed, Sir, this objection would prove far too
much even for those who use it. It would prove that there is no
use at all in education. Why should we put boys out of their
way? Why should we force a lad, who would much rather fly a kite
or trundle a hoop, to learn his Latin Grammar? Why should we
keep a young man to his Thucydides or his Laplace, when he would
much rather be shooting? Education would be mere useless
torture, if, at two or three and twenty, a man who had neglected
his studies were exactly on a par with a man who had applied
himself to them, exactly as likely to perform all the offices of
public life with credit to himself and with advantage to society.
Whether the English system of education be good or bad is not now
the question. Perhaps I may think that too much time is given to
the ancient languages and to the abstract sciences. But what
then? Whatever be the languages, whatever be the sciences, which
it is, in any age or country, the fashion to teach, the persons
who become the greatest proficients in those languages and those
sciences will generally be the flower of the youth, the most
acute, the most industrious, the most ambitious of honourable
distinctions. If the Ptolemaic system were taught at Cambridge
instead of the Newtonian, the senior wrangler would nevertheless
be in general a superior man to the wooden spoon. If, instead of
learning Greek, we learned the Cherokee, the man who understood
the Cherokee best, who made the most correct and melodious
Cherokee verses, who comprehended most accurately the effect of
the Cherokee particles, would generally be a superior man to him
who was destitute of these accomplishments. If astrology were
taught at our Universities, the young man who cast nativities
best would generally turn out a superior man. If alchymy were
taught, the young man who showed most activity in the pursuit of
the philosopher's stone would generally turn out a superior man.
I will only add one other observation on this subject. Although
I am inclined to think that too exclusive an attention is paid in
the education of young English gentlemen to the dead languages, I
conceive that when you are choosing men to fill situations for
which the very first and most indispensable qualification is
familiarity with foreign languages, it would be difficult to find
a better test of their fitness than their classical acquirements.
Some persons have expressed doubts as to the possibility of
procuring fair examinations. I am quite sure that no person who
has been either at Cambridge or at Oxford can entertain such
doubts. I feel, indeed, that I ought to apologise for even
noticing an objection so frivolous.
Next to the opening of the China trade, Sir, the change most
eagerly demanded by the English people was, that the restrictions
on the admission of Europeans to India should be removed. In
this change there are undoubtedly very great advantages. The
chief advantage is, I think, the improvement which the minds of
our native subjects may be expected to derive from free
intercourse with a people far advanced beyond themselves in
intellectual cultivation. I cannot deny, however, that the
advantages are attended with some danger.
The danger is that the new comers, belonging to the ruling
nation, resembling in colour, in language, in manners, those who
hold supreme military and political power, and differing in all
these respects from the great mass of the population, may
consider themselves as a superior class, and may trample on the
indigenous race. Hitherto there have been strong restraints on
Europeans resident in India. Licences were not easily obtained.
Those residents who were in the service of the Company had
obvious motives for conducting themselves with propriety. If
they incurred the serious displeasure of the Government, their
hopes of promotion were blighted. Even those who were not in the
public service were subject to the formidable power which the
Government possessed of banishing them at its pleasure.
The license of the Government will now no longer be necessary to
persons who desire to reside in the settled provinces of India.
The power of arbitrary deportation is withdrawn. Unless,
therefore, we mean to leave the natives exposed to the tyranny
and insolence of every profligate adventurer who may visit the
East, we must place the European under the same power which
legislates for the Hindoo. No man loves political freedom more
than I. But a privilege enjoyed by a few individuals, in the
midst of a vast population who do not enjoy it, ought not to be
called freedom. It is tyranny. In the West Indies I have not
the least doubt that the existence of the Trial by Jury and of
Legislative Assemblies has tended to make the condition of the
slaves worse than it would otherwise have been. Or, to go to
India itself for an instance, though I fully believe that a mild
penal code is better than a severe penal code, the worst of all
systems was surely that of having a mild code for the Brahmins,
who sprang from the head of the Creator, while there was a severe
code for the Sudras, who sprang from his feet. India has
suffered enough already from the distinction of castes, and from
the deeply rooted prejudices which that distinction has
engendered. God forbid that we should inflict on her the curse
of a new caste, that we should send her a new breed of Brahmins,
authorised to treat all the native population as Parias!
With a view to the prevention of this evil, we propose to give to
the Supreme Government the power of legislating for Europeans as
well as for natives. We propose that the regulations of the
Government shall bind the King's Court as they bind all other
courts, and that registration by the Judges of the King's Courts
shall no longer be necessary to give validity to those
regulations within the towns of Calcutta, Madras, and Bombay.
I could scarcely, Sir, believe my ears when I heard this part of
our plan condemned in another place. I should have thought that
it would have been received with peculiar favour in that quarter
where it has met with the most severe condemnation. What, at
present, is the case? If the Supreme Court and the Government
differ on a question of jurisdiction, or on a question of
legislation within the towns which are the seats of Government,
there is absolutely no umpire but the Imperial Parliament. The
device of putting one wild elephant between two tame elephants
was ingenious: but it may not always be practicable. Suppose a
tame elephant between two wild elephants, or suppose that the
whole herd should run wild together. The thing is not without
example. And is it not most unjust and ridiculous that, on one
side of a ditch, the edict of the Governor General should have
the force of law, and that on the other side it should be of no
effect unless registered by the Judges of the Supreme Court? If
the registration be a security for good legislation, we are bound
to give that security to all classes of our subjects. If the
registration be not a security for good legislation, why give it
to any? Is the system good? Extend it. Is it bad! Abolish it.
But in the name of common sense do not leave it as it is. It is
as absurd as our old law of sanctuary. The law which authorises
imprisonment for debt may be good or bad. But no man in his
senses can approve of the ancient system under which a debtor who
might be arrested in Fleet Street was safe as soon as he had
scampered into Whitefriars. Just in the same way, doubts may
fairly be entertained about the expediency of allowing four or
five persons to make laws for India; but to allow them to make
laws for all India without the Mahratta ditch, and to except
Calcutta, is the height of absurdity.
I say, therefore, that either you must enlarge the power of the
Supreme Court, and give it a general veto on laws, or you must
enlarge the power of the Government, and make its regulations
binding on all Courts without distinction. The former course no
person has ventured to propose. To the latter course objections
have been made; but objections which to me, I must own, seem
altogether frivolous.
It is acknowledged that of late years inconvenience has arisen
from the relation in which the Supreme Court stands to the
Government. But, it is said, that Court was originally
instituted for the protection of natives against Europeans. The
wise course would therefore be to restore its original character.
Now, Sir, the fact is, that the Supreme Court has never been so
mischievous as during the first ten years of its power, or so
respectable as it has lately been. Everybody who knows anything
of its early history knows, that, during a considerable time, it
was the terror of Bengal, the scourge of the native population,
the screen of European delinquents, a convenient tool of the
Government for all purposes of evil, an insurmountable obstacle
to the Government in all undertakings for the public good; that
its proceedings were made up of pedantry, cruelty, and
corruption; that its disputes with the Government were at one
time on the point of breaking up the whole fabric of society; and
that a convulsion was averted only by the dexterous policy of
Warren Hastings, who at last bought off the opposition of the
Chief Justice for eight thousand pounds a year. It is notorious
that, while the Supreme Court opposed Hastings in all his best
measures, it was a thoroughgoing accomplice in his worst; that it
took part in the most scandalous of those proceedings which,
fifty years ago, roused the indignation of Parliament and of the
country; that it assisted in the spoliation of the princesses of
Oude; that it passed sentence of death on Nuncomar. And this is
the Court which we are to restore from its present state of
degeneracy to its original purity. This is the protection which
we are to give to the natives against the Europeans. Sir, so far
is it from being true that the character of the Supreme Court has
deteriorated, that it has, perhaps, improved more than any other
institution in India. But the evil lies deep in the nature of
the institution itself. The judges have in our time deserved the
greatest respect. Their judgment and integrity have done much to
mitigate the vices of the system. The worst charge that can be
brought against any of them is that of pertinacity,
disinterested, conscientious pertinacity, in error. The real
evil is the state of the law. You have two supreme powers in
India. There is no arbitrator except a Legislature fifteen
thousand miles off. Such a system is on the face of it an
absurdity in politics. My wonder is, not that this system has
several times been on the point of producing fatal consequences
to the peace and resources of India;--those, I think, are the
words in which Warren Hastings described the effect of the
contest between his Government and the Judges;--but that it has
not actually produced such consequences. The most distinguished
members of the Indian Government, the most distinguished Judges
of the Supreme Court, call upon you to reform this system. Sir
Charles Metcalfe, Sir Charles Grey, represent with equal urgency
the expediency of having one single paramount council armed with
legislative power. The admission of Europeans to India renders
it absolutely necessary not to delay our decision. The effect of
that admission would be to raise a hundred questions, to produce
a hundred contests between the Council and the judicature. The
Government would be paralysed at the precise moment at which all
its energy was required. While the two equal powers were acting
in opposite directions, the whole machine of the state would
stand still. The Europeans would be uncontrolled. The natives
would be unprotected. The consequences I will not pretend to
foresee. Everything beyond is darkness and confusion.
Having given to the Government supreme legislative power, we next
propose to give to it for a time the assistance of a commission
for the purpose of digesting and reforming the laws of India, so
that those laws may, as soon as possible, be formed into a Code.
Gentleman of whom I wish to speak with the highest respect have
expressed a doubt whether India be at present in a fit state to
receive a benefit which is not yet enjoyed by this free and
highly civilised country. Sir, I can allow to this argument very
little weight beyond that which it derives from the personal
authority of those who use it. For, in the first place, our
freedom and our high civilisation make this improvement,
desirable as it must always be, less indispensably necessary to
us than to our Indian subjects; and in the next place, our
freedom and civilisation, I fear, make it far more difficult for
us to obtain this benefit for ourselves than to bestow it on
them.
I believe that no country ever stood so much in need of a code of
laws as India; and I believe also that there never was a country
in which the want might so easily be supplied. I said that there
were many points of analogy between the state of that country
after the fall of the Mogul power, and the state of Europe after
the fall of the Roman empire. In one respect the analogy is very
striking. As there were in Europe then, so there are in India
now, several systems of law widely differing from each other, but
coexisting and coequal. The indigenous population has its own
laws. Each of the successive races of conquerors has brought
with it its own peculiar jurisprudence: the Mussulman his Koran
and the innumerable commentators on the Koran; the Englishman his
Statute Book and his Term Reports. As there were established in
Italy, at one and the same time, the Roman Law, the Lombard law,
the Ripuarian law, the Bavarian law, and the Salic law, so we
have now in our Eastern empire Hindoo law, Mahometan law, Parsee
law, English law, perpetually mingling with each other and
disturbing each other, varying with the person, varying with the
place. In one and the same cause the process and pleadings are
in the fashion of one nation, the judgment is according to the
laws of another. An issue is evolved according to the rules of
Westminster, and decided according to those of Benares. The only
Mahometan book in the nature of a code is the Koran; the only
Hindoo book, the Institutes. Everybody who knows those books
knows that they provide for a very small part of the cases which
must arise in every community. All beyond them is comment and
tradition. Our regulations in civil matters do not define
rights, but merely establish remedies. If a point of Hindoo law
arises, the Judge calls on the Pundit for an opinion. If a point
of Mahometan law arises, the Judge applies to the Cauzee. What
the integrity of these functionaries is, we may learn from Sir
William Jones. That eminent man declared that he could not
answer it to his conscience to decide any point of law on the
faith of a Hindoo expositor. Sir Thomas Strange confirms this
declaration. Even if there were no suspicion of corruption on
the part of the interpreters of the law, the science which they
profess is in such a state of confusion that no reliance can be
placed on their answers. Sir Francis Macnaghten tells us, that
it is a delusion to fancy that there is any known and fixed law
under which the Hindoo people live; that texts may be produced on
any side of any question; that expositors equal in authority
perpetually contradict each other: that the obsolete law is
perpetually confounded with the law actually in force; and that
the first lesson to be impressed on a functionary who has to
administer Hindoo law is that it is vain to think of extracting
certainty from the books of the jurist. The consequence is that
in practice the decisions of the tribunals are altogether
arbitrary. What is administered is not law, but a kind of rude
and capricious equity. I asked an able and excellent judge
lately returned from India how one of our Zillah Courts would
decide several legal questions of great importance, questions not
involving considerations of religion or of caste, mere questions
of commercial law. He told me that it was a mere lottery. He
knew how he should himself decide them. But he knew nothing
more. I asked a most distinguished civil servant of the Company,
with reference to the clause in this Bill on the subject of
slavery, whether at present, if a dancing girl ran away from her
master, the judge would force her to go back. "Some judges," he
said, "send a girl back. Others set her at liberty. The whole
is a mere matter of chance. Everything depends on the temper of
the individual judge."
Even in this country we have had complaints of judge-made law;
even in this country, where the standard of morality is higher
than in almost any other part of the world; where, during several
generations, not one depositary of our legal traditions has
incurred the suspicion of personal corruption; where there are
popular institutions; where every decision is watched by a shrewd
and learned audience; where there is an intelligent and observant
public; where every remarkable case is fully reported in a
hundred newspapers; where, in short, there is everything which
can mitigate the evils of such a system. But judge-made law,
where there is an absolute government and a lax morality, where
there is no bar and no public, is a curse and a scandal not to be
endured. It is time that the magistrate should know what law he
is to administer, that the subject should know under what law he
is to live. We do not mean that all the people of India should
live under the same law: far from it: there is not a word in
the bill, there was not a word in my right honourable friend's
speech, susceptible of such an interpretation. We know how
desirable that object is; but we also know that it is
unattainable. We know that respect must be paid to feelings
generated by differences of religion, of nation, and of caste.
Much, I am persuaded, may be done to assimilate the different
systems of law without wounding those feelings. But, whether we
assimilate those systems or not, let us ascertain them; let us
digest them. We propose no rash innovation; we wish to give no
shock to the prejudices of any part of our subjects. Our
principle is simply this; uniformity where you can have it:
diversity where you must have it; but in all cases certainty.
As I believe that India stands more in need of a code than any
other country in the world, I believe also that there is no
country on which that great benefit can more easily be conferred.
A code is almost the only blessing, perhaps is the only blessing,
which absolute governments are better fitted to confer on a
nation than popular governments. The work of digesting a vast
and artificial system of unwritten jurisprudence is far more
easily performed, and far better performed, by few minds than by
many, by a Napoleon than by a Chamber of Deputies and a Chamber
of Peers, by a government like that of Prussia or Denmark than by
a government like that of England. A quiet knot of two or three
veteran jurists is an infinitely better machinery for such a
purpose than a large popular assembly divided, as such assemblies
almost always are, into adverse factions. This seems to me,
therefore, to be precisely that point of time at which the
advantage of a complete written code of laws may most easily be
conferred on India. It is a work which cannot be well performed
in an age of barbarism, which cannot without great difficulty be
performed in an age of freedom. It is a work which especially
belongs to a government like that of India, to an enlightened and
paternal despotism.
I have detained the House so long, Sir, that I will defer what I
had to say on some parts of this measure, important parts,
indeed, but far less important, as I think, than those to which I
have adverted, till we are in Committee. There is, however, one
part of the bill on which, after what has recently passed
elsewhere, I feel myself irresistibly impelled to say a few
words. I allude to that wise, that benevolent, that noble clause
which enacts that no native of our Indian empire shall, by reason
of his colour, his descent, or his religion, be incapable of
holding office. At the risk of being called by that nickname
which is regarded as the most opprobrious of all nicknames by men
of selfish hearts and contracted minds, at the risk of being
called a philosopher, I must say that, to the last day of my
life, I shall be proud of having been one of those who assisted
in the framing of the bill which contains that clause. We are
told that the time can never come when the natives of India can
be admitted to high civil and military office. We are told that
this is the condition on which we hold our power. We are told
that we are bound to confer on our subjects every benefit--which
they are capable of enjoying?--no;--which it is in our power to
confer on them?--no;--but which we can confer on them without
hazard to the perpetuity of our own domination. Against that
proposition I solemnly protest as inconsistent alike with sound
policy and sound morality.
I am far, very far, from wishing to proceed hastily in this most
delicate matter. I feel that, for the good of India itself, the
admission of natives to high office must be effected by slow
degrees. But that, when the fulness of time is come, when the
interest of India requires the change, we ought to refuse to make
that change lest we should endanger our own power, this is a
doctrine of which I cannot think without indignation.
Governments, like men, may buy existence too dear. "Propter
vitam vivendi perdere causas," is a despicable policy both in
individuals and in states. In the present case, such a policy
would be not only despicable, but absurd. The mere extent of
empire is not necessarily an advantage. To many governments it
has been cumbersome; to some it has been fatal. It will be
allowed by every statesman of our time that the prosperity of a
community is made up of the prosperity of those who compose the
community, and that it is the most childish ambition to covet
dominion which adds to no man's comfort or security. To the
great trading nation, to the great manufacturing nation, no
progress which any portion of the human race can make in
knowledge, in taste for the conveniences of life, or in the
wealth by which those conveniences are produced, can be matter of
indifference. It is scarcely possible to calculate the benefits
which we might derive from the diffusion of European civilisation
among the vast population of the East. It would be, on the most
selfish view of the case, far better for us that the people of
India were well governed and independent of us, than ill governed
and subject to us; that they were ruled by their own kings, but
wearing our broadcloth, and working with our cutlery, than that
they were performing their salams to English collectors and
English magistrates, but were too ignorant to value, or too poor
to buy, English manufactures. To trade with civilised men is
infinitely more profitable than to govern savages. That would,
indeed, be a doting wisdom, which, in order that India might
remain a dependency, would make it an useless and costly
dependency, which would keep a hundred millions of men from being
our customers in order that they might continue to be our slaves.
It was, as Bernier tells us, the practice of the miserable
tyrants whom he found in India, when they dreaded the capacity
and spirit of some distinguished subject, and yet could not
venture to murder him, to administer to him a daily dose of the
pousta, a preparation of opium, the effect of which was in a few
months to destroy all the bodily and mental powers of the wretch
who was drugged with it, and to turn him into a helpless idiot.
The detestable artifice, more horrible than assassination itself,
was worthy of those who employed it. It is no model for the
English nation. We shall never consent to administer the pousta
to a whole community, to stupefy and paralyse a great people whom
God has committed to our charge, for the wretched purpose of
rendering them more amenable to our control. What is power worth
if it is founded on vice, on ignorance, and on misery; if we can
hold it only by violating the most sacred duties which as
governors we owe to the governed, and which, as a people blessed
with far more than an ordinary measure of political liberty and
of intellectual light, we owe to a race debased by three thousand
years of despotism and priestcraft? We are free, we are
civilised, to little purpose, if we grudge to any portion of the
human race an equal measure of freedom and civilisation.
Are we to keep the people of India ignorant in order that we may
keep them submissive? Or do we think that we can give them
knowledge without awakening ambition? Or do we mean to awaken
ambition and to provide it with no legitimate vent? Who will
answer any of these questions in the affirmative? Yet one of
them must be answered in the affirmative, by every person who
maintains that we ought permanently to exclude the natives from
high office. I have no fears. The path of duty is plain before
us: and it is also the path of wisdom, of national prosperity,
of national honour.
The destinies of our Indian empire are covered with thick
darkness. It is difficult to form any conjecture as to the fate
reserved for a state which resembles no other in history, and
which forms by itself a separate class of political phenomena.
The laws which regulate its growth and its decay are still
unknown to us. It may be that the public mind of India may
expand under our system till it has outgrown that system; that by
good government we may educate our subjects into a capacity for
better government; that, having become instructed in European
knowledge, they may, in some future age, demand European
institutions. Whether such a day will ever come I know not. But
never will I attempt to avert or to retard it. Whenever it
comes, it will be the proudest day in English history. To have
found a great people sunk in the lowest depths of slavery and
superstition, to have so ruled them as to have made them desirous
and capable of all the privileges of citizens, would indeed be a
title to glory all our own. The sceptre may pass away from us.
Unforeseen accidents may derange our most profound schemes of
policy. Victory may be inconstant to our arms. But there are
triumphs which are followed by no reverse. There is an empire
exempt from all natural causes of decay. Those triumphs are the
pacific triumphs of reason over barbarism; that empire is the
imperishable empire of our arts and our morals, our literature
and our laws.
A SPEECH DELIVERED AT EDINBURGH ON THE 29TH OF MAY 1839.
The elevation of Mr Abercromby to the peerage in May 1839, caused
a vacancy in the representation of the city of Edinburgh. A
meeting of the electors was called to consider of the manner in
which the vacancy should be supplied. At this meeting the
following Speech was made.
My Lord Provost and Gentlemen,--At the request of a very large
and respectable portion of your body, I appear before you as a
candidate for a high and solemn trust, which, uninvited, I should
have thought it presumption to solicit, but which, thus invited,
I should think it cowardice to decline. If I had felt myself
justified in following my own inclinations, I am not sure that
even a summons so honourable as that which I have received would
have been sufficient to draw me away from pursuits far better
suited to my taste and temper than the turmoil of political
warfare. But I feel that my lot is cast in times in which no man
is free to judge, merely according to his own taste and temper,
whether he will devote himself to active or to contemplative
life; in times in which society has a right to demand, from every
one of its members, active and strenuous exertions. I have,
therefore, obeyed your call; and I now present myself before you
for the purpose of offering to you, not, what I am sure you would
reject with disdain, flattery, degrading alike to a candidate,
and to a constituent body; but such reasonable, candid, and manly
explanations as become the mouth of a free man ambitious of the
confidence of a free people.
It is hardly necessary for me to say that I stand here
unconnected with this great community. It would be mere
affectation not to acknowledge that with respect to local
questions I have much to learn; but I hope that you will find in
me no sluggish or inattentive learner. From an early age I have
felt a strong interest in Edinburgh, although attached to
Edinburgh by no other ties than those which are common to me with
multitudes; that tie which attaches every man of Scottish blood
to the ancient and renowned capital of our race; that tie which
attaches every student of history to the spot ennobled by so many
great and memorable events; that tie which attaches every
traveller of taste to the most beautiful of British cities; and
that tie which attaches every lover of literature to a place
which, since it has ceased to be the seat of empire, has derived
from poetry, philosophy, and eloquence a far higher distinction
than empire can bestow. If to those ties it shall now be your
pleasure to add a tie still closer and more peculiar, I can only
assure you that it shall be the study of my life so to conduct
myself in these our troubled times that you may have no reason to
be ashamed of your choice.
Those gentlemen who invited me to appear as a candidate before
you were doubtless acquainted with the part which I took in
public affairs during the three first Parliaments of the late
King. Circumstances have since that time undergone great
alteration; but no alteration has taken place in my principles.
I do not mean to say that thought, discussion, and the new
phenomena produced by the operation of a new representative
system, have not led me to modify some of my views on questions
of detail; but, with respect to the fundamental principles of
government, my opinions are still what they were when, in 1831
and 1832, I took part, according to the measure of my abilities,
in that great pacific victory which purified the representative
system of England, and which first gave a real representative
system to Scotland. Even at that time, Gentlemen, the leaning of
my mind was in favour of one measure to which the illustrious
leader of the Whig party, whose name ought never to be mentioned
without gratitude and reverence in any assembly of British
electors, I mean Earl Grey, was understood to entertain strong
objections, and to which his Cabinet, as a Cabinet, was
invariably opposed. I speak of the vote by ballot. All that has
passed since that time confirms me in the view which I was then
inclined to take of that important question. At the same time I
do not think that all the advantages are on one side and all the
disadvantages on the other. I must admit that the effect of the
practice of secret voting would be to withdraw the voter from the
operation of some salutary and honourable, as well as of some
pernicious and degrading motives. But seeing, as I cannot help
seeing, that the practice of intimidation, instead of
diminishing, is gaining ground, I am compelled to consider
whether the time has not arrived when we are bound to apply what
seems the only efficient remedy. And I am compelled to consider
whether, in doing so, I am not strictly following the principles
of the Reform Bill to the legitimate conclusions. For surely
those who supported the Reform Bill intended to give the people
of Britain a reality, not a delusion; to destroy nomination, and
not to make an outward show of destroying it; to bestow the
franchise, and not the name of the franchise; and least of all,
to give suffering and humiliation under the name of the
franchise. If men are to be returned to Parliament, not by
popular election, but by nomination, then I say without
hesitation that the ancient system was much the best. Both
systems alike sent men to Parliament who were not freely chosen
by independent constituent bodies: but under the old system
there was little or no need of intimidation, while, under the new
system, we have the misery and disgrace produced by intimidation
added to the process. If, therefore, we are to have nomination,
I prefer the nomination which used to take place at Old Sarum to
the nomination which now takes place at Newark. In both cases
you have members returned at the will of one landed proprietor:
but at Newark you have two hundred ejectments into the bargain,
to say nothing of the mortification and remorse endured by all
those who, though they were not ejected, yet voted against their
consciences from fear of ejectment.
There is perhaps no point on which good men of all parties are
more completely agreed than on the necessity of restraining and
punishing corruption in the election of Members of Parliament.
The evils of corruption are doubtless very great; but it appears
to me that those evils which are attributed to corruption may,
with equal justice, be attributed to intimidation, and that
intimidation produces also some monstrous evils with which
corruption cannot be reproached. In both cases alike the elector
commits a breach of trust. In both cases alike he employs for
his own advantage an important power which was confided to him,
that it might be used, to the best of his judgment, for the
general good of the community. Thus far corruption and
intimidation operate in the same manner. But there is this
difference betwixt the two systems; corruption operates by giving
pleasure, intimidation by giving pain. To give a poor man five
pounds causes no pain: on the contrary it produces pleasure. It
is in itself no bad act: indeed, if the five pounds were given
on another occasion, and without a corrupt object, it might pass
for a benevolent act. But to tell a man that you will reduce him
to a situation in which he will miss his former comforts, and in
which his family will be forced to beg their bread, is a cruel
act. Corruption has a sort of illegitimate relationship to
benevolence, and engenders some feelings of a cordial and
friendly nature. There is a notion of charity connected with the
distribution of the money of the rich among the needy, even in a
corrupt manner. The comic writer who tells us that the whole
system of corruption is to be considered as a commerce of
generosity on one side and of gratitude on the other, has rather
exaggerated than misrepresented what really takes place in many
of these English constituent bodies where money is lavished to
conciliate the favour and obtain the suffrages of the people.
But in intimidation the whole process is an odious one. The
whole feeling on the part of the elector is that of shame,
degradation, and hatred of the person to whom he has given his
vote. The elector is indeed placed in a worse situation than if
he had no vote at all; for there is not one of us who would not
rather be without a vote than be compelled to give it to the
person whom he dislikes above all others.
Thinking, therefore, that the practice of intimidation has all
the evils which are to be found in corruption, and that it has
other evils which are not to be found in corruption, I was
naturally led to consider whether it was possible to prevent it
by any process similar to that by which corruption is restrained.
Corruption, you all know, is the subject of penal laws. If it is
brought home to the parties, they are liable to severe
punishment. Although it is not often that it can be brought
home, yet there are instances. I remember several men of large
property confined in Newgate for corruption. Penalties have been
awarded against offenders to the amount of five hundred pounds.
Many members of Parliament have been unseated on account of the
malpractices of their agents. But you cannot, I am afraid,
repress intimidation by penal laws. Such laws would infringe the
most sacred rights of property. How can I require a man to deal
with tradesmen who have voted against him, or to renew the leases
of tenants who have voted against him? What is it that the Jew
says in the play?
"I'll not answer that,
But say it is my humour."
Or, as a Christian of our own time has expressed himself, "I have
a right to do what I will with my own." There is a great deal of
weight in the reasoning of Shylock and the Duke of Newcastle.
There would be an end of the right of property if you were to
interdict a landlord from ejecting a tenant, if you were to force
a gentleman to employ a particular butcher, and to take as much
beef this year as last year. The principle of the right of
property is that a man is not only to be allowed to dispose of
his wealth rationally and usefully, but to be allowed to indulge
his passions and caprices, to employ whatever tradesmen and
labourers he chooses, and to let, or refuse to let, his land
according to his own pleasure, without giving any reason or
asking anybody's leave. I remember that, on one of the first
evenings on which I sate in the House of Commons, Mr Poulett
Thompson proposed a censure on the Duke of Newcastle for His
Grace's conduct towards the electors of Newark. Sir Robert Peel
opposed the motion, not only with considerable ability, but with
really unanswerable reasons. He asked if it was meant that a
tenant who voted against his landlord was to keep his lease for
ever. If so, tenants would vote against a landlord to secure
themselves, as they now vote with a landlord to secure
themselves. I thought, and think, this argument unanswerable;
but then it is unanswerable in favour of the ballot; for, if it
be impossible to deal with intimidation by punishment, you are
bound to consider whether there be any means of prevention; and
the only mode of prevention that has ever been suggested is the
ballot. That the ballot has disadvantages to be set off against
its advantages, I admit; but it appears to me that we have only a
choice of evils, and that the evils for which the ballot is a
specific remedy are greater than any which the ballot is likely
to produce. Observe with what exquisite accuracy the ballot
draws the line of distinction between the power which we ought to
give to the proprietor and the power which we ought not to give
him. It leaves the proprietor the absolute power to do what he
will with his own. Nobody calls upon him to say why he ejected
this tenant, or took away his custom from that tradesman. It
leaves him at liberty to follow his own tastes, to follow his
strangest whims. The only thing which it puts beyond his power
is the vote of the tenant, the vote of the tradesman, which it is
our duty to protect. I ought at the same time to say, that there
is one objection to the ballot of a very serious nature, but
which I think may, nevertheless, be obviated. It is quite clear
that, if the ballot shall be adopted, there will be no remedy for
an undue return by a subsequent scrutiny. Unless, therefore, the
registration of votes can be counted on as correct, the ballot
will undoubtedly lead to great inconvenience. It seems,
therefore, that a careful revision of the whole system of
registration, and an improvement of the tribunal before which the
rights of the electors are to be established, should be an
inseparable part of any measure by which the ballot is to be
introduced.
As to those evils which we have been considering, they are evils
which are practically felt; they are evils which press hard upon
a large portion of the constituent body; and it is not therefore
strange, that the cry for a remedy should be loud and urgent.
But there is another subject respecting which I am told that many
among you are anxious, a subject of a very different description.
I allude to the duration of Parliaments.
It must be admitted that for some years past we have had little
reason to complain of the length of Parliaments. Since the year
1830 we have had five general elections; two occasioned by the
deaths of two Sovereigns, and three by political conjunctures.
As to the present Parliament, I do not think that, whatever
opinion gentlemen may entertain of the conduct of that body, they
will impute its faults to any confidence which the members have
that they are to sit for seven years; for I very much question
whether there be one gentleman in the House of Commons who
thinks, or has ever thought, that his seat is worth three years'
purchase. When, therefore, we discuss this question, we must
remember that we are discussing a question not immediately
pressing. I freely admit, however, that this is no reason for
not fairly considering the subject: for it is the part of wise
men to provide against evils which, though not actually felt, may
be reasonably apprehended. It seems to me that here, as in the
case of the ballot, there are serious considerations to be urged
on both sides. The objections to long Parliaments are perfectly
obvious. The truth is that, in very long Parliaments, you have
no representation at all. The mind of the people goes on
changing; and the Parliament, remaining unchanged, ceases to
reflect the opinion of the constituent bodies. In the old times
before the Revolution, a Parliament might sit during the life of
the monarch. Parliaments were then sometimes of eighteen or
twenty years' duration. Thus the Parliament called by Charles
the Second soon after his return from exile, and elected when the
nation was drunk with hope and convulsed by a hysterical paroxysm
of loyalty, continued to sit long after two-thirds of those who
had heartily welcomed the King back from Holland as heartily
wished him in Holland again. Since the Revolution we have not
felt that evil to the same extent: but it must be admitted that
the term of seven years is too long. There are, however, other
considerations to set off against this. There are two very
serious evils connected with every general election: the first
is, the violent political excitement: the second is, the ruinous
expense. Both these evils were very greatly diminished by the
Reform Act. Formerly these were things which you in Scotland
knew nothing about; but in England the injury to the peace and
morals of society resulting from a general election was
incalculable. During a fifteen days' poll in a town of one
hundred thousand inhabitants, money was flowing in all
directions; the streets were running with beer; all business was
suspended; and there was nothing but disturbance and riot, and
slander, and calumny, and quarrels, which left in the bosoms of
private families heartburnings such as were not extinguished in
the course of many years. By limiting the duration of the poll,
the Reform Act has conferred as great a blessing on the country,
--and that is saying a bold word,--as by any other provision
which it contains. Still it is not to be denied that there are
evils inseparable from that state of political excitement into
which every community is thrown by the preparations for an
election. A still greater evil is the expense. That evil too
has been diminished by the operation of the Reform Act; but it
still exists to a considerable extent. We do not now indeed hear
of such elections as that of Yorkshire in 1807, or that of
Northumberland in 1827. We do not hear of elections that cost
two hundred thousand pounds. But that the tenth part of that
sum, nay, that the hundredth part of that sum should be expended
in a contest, is a great evil. Do not imagine, Gentlemen, that
all this evil falls on the candidates. It is on you that the
evil falls. The effect must necessarily be to limit you in your
choice of able men to serve you. The number of men who can
advance fifty thousand pounds is necessarily much smaller than
the number of men who can advance five thousand pounds; the
number of these again is much smaller than the number of those
who can advance five hundred pounds; and the number of men who
can advance five hundred pounds every three years is necessarily
smaller than the number of those who can advance five hundred
pounds every seven years. Therefore it seems to me that the
question is one of comparison. In long Parliaments the
representative character is in some measure effaced. On the
other side, if you have short Parliaments, your choice of men
will be limited. Now in all questions of this sort, it is the
part of wisdom to weigh, not indeed with minute accuracy,--for
questions of civil prudence cannot be subjected to an
arithmetical test,--but to weigh the advantages and disadvantages
carefully, and then to strike the balance. Gentlemen will
probably judge according to their habits of mind, and according
to their opportunities of observation. Those who have seen much
of the evils of elections will probably incline to long
Parliaments; those who have seen little or nothing of these evils
will probably incline to a short term. Only observe this, that,
whatever may be the legal term, it ought to be a year longer than
that for which Parliaments ought ordinarily to sit. For there
must be a general election at the end of the legal term, let the
state of the country be what it may. There may be riot; there
may be revolution; there may be famine in the country; and yet if
the Minister wait to the end of the legal term, the writs must go
out. A wise Minister will therefore always dissolve the
Parliament a year before the end of the legal term, if the
country be then in a quiet state. It has now been long the
practice not to keep a Parliament more than six years. Thus the
Parliament which was elected in 1784 sat till 1790, six years;
the Parliament of 1790 till 1796, the Parliament of 1796 to 1802,
the Parliament of 1812 to 1818, and the Parliament of 1820 till
1826. If, therefore, you wish the duration of Parliaments to be
shortened to three years, the proper course would be to fix the
legal term at four years; and if you wish them to sit for four
years, the proper course would be to fix the legal term at five
years. My own inclination would be to fix the legal term at five
years, and thus to have a Parliament practically every four
years. I ought to add that, whenever any shortening of
Parliament takes place, we ought to alter that rule which
requires that Parliament shall be dissolved as often as the
demise of the Crown takes place. It is a rule for which no
statesmanlike reason can be given; it is a mere technical rule;
and it has already been so much relaxed that, even considered as
a technical rule, it is absurd.
I come now to another subject, of the highest and gravest
importance: I mean the elective franchise; and I acknowledge
that I am doubtful whether my opinions on this subject may be so
pleasing to many here present as, if I may judge from your
expressions, my sentiments on other subjects have been. I shall
express my opinions, however, on this subject as frankly as I
have expressed them when they may have been more pleasing. I
shall express them with the frankness of a man who is more
desirous to gain your esteem than to gain your votes. I am for
the original principle of the Reform Bill. I think that
principle excellent; and I am sorry that we ever deviated from
it. There were two deviations to which I was strongly opposed,
and to which the authors of the bill, hard pressed by their
opponents and feebly supported by their friends, very unwillingly
consented. One was the admission of the freemen to vote in
towns: the other was the admission of the fifty pound tenants at
will to vote in counties. At the same time I must say that I
despair of being able to apply a direct remedy to either of these
evils. The ballot might perhaps be an indirect remedy for the
latter. I think that the system of registration should be
amended, that the clauses relating to the payment of rates should
be altered, or altogether removed, and that the elective
franchise should be extended to every ten pound householder,
whether he resides within or without the limits of a town. To
this extent I am prepared to go; but I should not be dealing with
the ingenuousness which you have a right to expect, if I did not
tell you that I am not prepared to go further. There are many
other questions as to which you are entitled to know the opinions
of your representative: but I shall only glance rapidly at the
most important. I have ever been a most determined enemy to the
slave trade, and to personal slavery under every form. I have
always been a friend to popular education. I have always been a
friend to the right of free discussion. I have always been
adverse to all restrictions on trade, and especially to those
restrictions which affect the price of the necessaries of life.
I have always been adverse to religious persecution, whether it
takes the form of direct penal laws, or of civil disabilities.
Now, having said so much upon measures, I hope you will permit me
to say something about men. If you send me as your
representative to Parliament, I wish you to understand that I
shall go there determined to support the present ministry. I
shall do so not from any personal interest or feeling. I have
certainly the happiness to have several kind and much valued
friends among the members of the Government; and there is one
member of the Government, the noble President of the Council, to
whom I owe obligations which I shall always be proud to avow.
That noble Lord, when I was utterly unknown in public life, and
scarcely known even to himself, placed me in the House of
Commons; and it is due to him to say that he never in the least
interfered with the freedom of my parliamentary conduct. I have
since represented a great constituent body, for whose confidence
and kindness I can never be sufficiently grateful, I mean the
populous borough of Leeds. I may possibly by your kindness be
placed in the proud situation of Representative of Edinburgh; but
I never could and never can be a more independent Member of the
House of Commons than when I sat there as the nominee of Lord
Lansdowne. But, while I acknowledge my obligations to that noble
person, while I avow the friendship which I feel for many of his
colleagues, it is not on such grounds that I vindicate the
support which it is my intention to give them. I have no right
to sacrifice your interests to my personal or private feelings:
my principles do not permit me to do so; nor do my friends expect
that I should do so. The support which I propose to give to the
present Ministry I shall give on the following grounds. I
believe the present Ministry to be by many degrees the best
Ministry which, in the present state of the country, can be
formed. I believe that we have only one choice. I believe that
our choice is between a Ministry substantially,--for of course I
do not speak of particular individuals,--between a Ministry
substantially the same that we have, and a Ministry under the
direction of the Duke of Wellington and Sir Robert Peel. I do
not hesitate to pronounce that my choice is in favour of the
former. Some gentleman appears to dissent from what I say. If I
knew what his objections are, I would try to remove them. But it
is impossible to answer inarticulate noises. Is the objection
that the government is too conservative? Or is the objection
that the government is too radical? If I understand rightly, the
objection is that the Government does not proceed vigorously
enough in the work of Reform. To that objection then I will
address myself. Now, I am far from denying that the Ministers
have committed faults. But, at the same time, I make allowances
for the difficulties with which they are contending; and having
made these allowances, I confidently say that, when I look back
at the past, I think them entitled to praise, and that, looking
forward to the future, I can pronounce with still more confidence
that they are entitled to support.
It is a common error, and one which I have found among men, not
only intelligent, but much conversant in public business, to
think that in politics, legislation is everything and
administration nothing. Nothing is more usual than to hear
people say, "What! another session gone and nothing done; no new
bills passed; the Irish Municipal Bill stopped in the House of
Lords. How could we be worse off if the Tories were in?" My
answer is that, if the Tories were in, our legislation would be
in as bad a state as at present, and we should have a bad
administration into the bargain. It seems strange to me that
gentlemen should not be aware that it may be better to have
unreformed laws administered in a reforming spirit, than reformed
laws administered in a spirit hostile to all reform. We often
hear the maxim, "Measures not men," and there is a sense in which
it is an excellent maxim. Measures not men, certainly: that is,
we are not to oppose Sir Robert Peel simply because he is Sir
Robert Peel, or to support Lord John Russell simply because he is
Lord John Russell. We are not to follow our political leaders in
the way in which my honest Highland ancestors followed their
chieftains. We are not to imitate that blind devotion which led
all the Campbells to take the side of George the Second because
the Duke of Argyle was a Whig, and all the Camerons to take the
side of the Stuarts because Lochiel was a Jacobite. But if you
mean that, while the laws remain the same, it is unimportant by
whom they are administered, then I say that a doctrine more
absurd was never uttered. Why, what are laws? They are mere
words; they are a dead letter; till a living agent comes to put
life into them. This is the case even in judicial matters. You
can tie up the judges of the land much more closely than it would
be right to tie up the Secretary for the Home Department or the
Secretary for Foreign Affairs. Yet is it immaterial whether the
laws be administered by Chief Justice Hale or Chief Justice
Jeffreys? And can you doubt that the case is still stronger when
you come to political questions? It would be perfectly easy, as
many of you must be aware, to point out instances in which
society has prospered under defective laws, well administered,
and other instances in which society has been miserable under
institutions that looked well on paper. But we need not go
beyond our own country and our own times. Let us see what,
within this island and in the present year, a good administration
has done to mitigate bad laws. For example, let us take the law
of libel. I hold the present state of our law of libel to be a
scandal to a civilised community. Nothing more absurd can be
found in the whole history of jurisprudence. How the law of
libel was abused formerly, you all know. You all know how it was
abused under the administrations of Lord North, of Mr Pitt, of Mr
Perceval, of the Earl of Liverpool; and I am sorry to say that it
was abused, most unjustifiably abused, by Lord Abinger under the
administration of the Duke of Wellington and Sir Robert Peel.
Now is there any person who will pretend to say that it has ever
been abused by the Government of Lord Melbourne? That Government
has enemies in abundance; it has been attacked by Tory
malcontents and by Radical malcontents; but has any one of them
ever had the effrontery to say that it has abused the power of
filing ex officio informations for libel? Has this been from
want of provocation? On the contrary, the present Government has
been libelled in a way in which no Government was ever libelled
before. Has the law been altered? Has it been modified? Not at
all. We have exactly the same laws that we had when Mr Perry was
brought to trial for saying that George the Third was unpopular,
Mr Leigh Hunt for saying that George the Fourth was fat, and Sir
Francis Burdett for expressing, not perhaps in the best taste, a
natural and honest indignation at the slaughter which took place
at Manchester in 1819. The law is precisely the same; but if it
had been entirely remodelled, political writers could not have
had more liberty than they have enjoyed since Lord Melbourne came
into power.
I have given you an instance of the power of a good
administration to mitigate a bad law. Now, see how necessary it
is that there should be a good administration to carry a good law
into effect. An excellent bill was brought into the House of
Commons by Lord John Russell in 1828, and passed. To any other
man than Lord John Russell the carrying of such a bill would have
been an enviable distinction indeed; but his name is identified
with still greater reforms. It will, however, always be
accounted one of his titles to public gratitude that he was the
author of the law which repealed the Test Act. Well, a short
time since, a noble peer, the Lord Lieutenant of the county of
Nottingham, thought fit to re-enact the Test Act, so far as that
county was concerned. I have already mentioned His Grace the
Duke of Newcastle, and, to say truth, there is no life richer in
illustrations of all forms and branches of misgovernment than
his. His Grace very coolly informed Her Majesty's Ministers that
he had not recommended a certain gentleman for the commission of
the peace because the gentleman was a Dissenter. Now here is a
law which admits Dissenters to offices; and a Tory nobleman takes
it on himself to rescind that law. But happily we have Whig
Ministers. What did they do? Why, they put the Dissenter into
the Commission; and they turned the Tory nobleman out of the
Lieutenancy. Do you seriously imagine that under a Tory
administration this would have been done? I have no wish to say
anything disrespectful of the great Tory leaders. I shall always
speak with respect of the great qualities and public services of
the Duke of Wellington: I have no other feeling about him than
one of pride that my country has produced so great a man; nor do
I feel anything but respect and kindness for Sir Robert Peel, of
whose abilities no person that has had to encounter him in debate
will ever speak slightingly. I do not imagine that those eminent
men would have approved of the conduct of the Duke of Newcastle.
I believe that the Duke of Wellington would as soon have thought
of running away from the field of battle as of doing the same
thing in Hampshire, where he is Lord Lieutenant. But do you
believe that he would have turned the Duke of Newcastle out? I
believe that he would not. As Mr Pulteney, a great political
leader, said a hundred years since, "The heads of parties are,
like the heads of snakes, carried on by the tails." It would
have been utterly impossible for the Tory Ministers to have
discarded the powerful Tory Duke, unless they had at the same
time resolved, like Mr Canning in 1827, to throw themselves for
support on the Whigs.
Now I have given you these two instances to show that a change in
the administration may produce all the effects of a change in the
law. You see that to have a Tory Government is virtually to re-
enact the Test Act, and that to have a Whig Government is
virtually to repeal the law of libel. And if this is the case in
England and Scotland, where society is in a sound state, how much
more must it be the case in the diseased part of the empire, in
Ireland? Ask any man there, whatever may be his religion,
whatever may be his politics, Churchman, Presbyterian, Roman
Catholic, Repealer, Precursor, Orangeman, ask Mr O'Connell, ask
Colonel Conolly, whether it is a slight matter in whose hands the
executive power is lodged. Every Irishman will tell you that it
is a matter of life and death; that in fact more depends upon the
men than upon the laws. It disgusts me therefore to hear men of
liberal politics say, "What is the use of a Whig Government? The
Ministers can do nothing for the country. They have been four
years at work on an Irish Municipal Bill, without being able to
pass it through the Lords." Would any ten Acts of Parliament
make such a difference to Ireland as the difference between
having Lord Ebrington for Lord Lieutenant, with Lord Morpeth for
Secretary, and having the Earl of Roden for Lord Lieutenant, with
Mr Lefroy for Secretary? Ask the popular Irish leaders whether
they would like better to remain as they are, with Lord Ebrington
as Lord Lieutenant, or to have the Municipal Bill, and any other
three bills which they might name, with Lord Roden for Viceroy;
and they will at once answer, "Leave us Lord Ebrington; and burn
your bills." The truth is that, the more defective the
legislation, the more important is a good administration, just as
the personal qualities of the Sovereign are of more importance in
despotic countries like Russia than in a limited monarchy. If we
have not in our Statute Book all the securities necessary for
good government, it is of the more importance that the character
of the men who administer the government should be an additional
security.
But we are told that the Government is weak. That is most true;
and I believe that almost all that we are tempted to blame in the
conduct of the Government is to be attributed to weakness. But
let us consider what the nature of this weakness is. Is it that
kind of weakness which makes it our duty to oppose the
Government? Or is it that kind of weakness which makes it our
duty to support the Government? Is it intellectual weakness,
moral weakness, the incapacity to discern, or the want of courage
to pursue, the true interest of the nation? Such was the
weakness of Mr Addington, when this country was threatened with
invasion from Boulogne. Such was the weakness of the Government
which sent out the wretched Walcheren expedition, and starved the
Duke of Wellington in Spain; a government whose only strength was
shown in prosecuting writers who exposed abuses, and in
slaughtering rioters whom oppression had driven into outrage. Is
that the weakness of the present Government? I think not. As
compared with any other party capable of holding the reins of
Government, they are deficient neither in intellectual nor in
moral strength. On all great questions of difference between the
Ministers and the Opposition, I hold the Ministers to be in the
right. When I consider the difficulties with which they have to
struggle, when I see how manfully that struggle is maintained by
Lord Melbourne, when I see that Lord John Russell has excited
even the admiration of his opponents by the heroic manner in
which he has gone on, year after year, in sickness and domestic
sorrow, fighting the battle of Reform, I am led to the conclusion
that the weakness of the Ministers is of that sort which makes it
our duty to give them, not opposition, but support; and that
support it is my purpose to afford to the best of my ability.
If, indeed, I thought myself at liberty to consult my own
inclination, I should have stood aloof from the conflict. If you
should be pleased to send me to Parliament, I shall enter an
assembly very different from that which I quitted in 1834. I
left the Wigs united and dominant, strong in the confidence and
attachment of one House of Parliament, strong also in the fears
of the other. I shall return to find them helpless in the Lords,
and forced almost every week to fight a battle for existence in
the Commons. Many, whom I left bound together by what seemed
indissoluble private and public ties, I shall now find assailing
each other with more than the ordinary bitterness of political
hostility. Many with whom I sate side by side, contending
through whole nights for the Reform Bill, till the sun broke over
the Thames on our undiminished ranks, I shall now find on hostile
benches. I shall be compelled to engage in painful altercations
with many with whom I had hoped never to have a conflict, except
in the generous and friendly strife which should best serve the
common cause. I left the Liberal Government strong enough to
maintain itself against an adverse Court; I see that the Liberal
Government now rests for support on the preference of a
Sovereign, in whom the country sees with delight the promise of a
better, a gentler, a happier Elizabeth, of a Sovereign in whom we
hope that our children and our grandchildren will admire the
firmness, the sagacity, and the spirit which distinguished the
last and greatest of the Tudors, tempered by the beneficent
influence of more humane times and more popular institutions.
Whether royal favour, never more needed and never better
deserved, will enable the government to surmount the difficulties
with which it has to deal, I cannot presume to judge. It may be
that the blow has only been deferred for a season, and that a
long period of Tory domination is before us. Be it so. I
entered public life a Whig; and a Whig I am determined to remain.
I use that word, and I wish you to understand that I use it, in
no narrow sense. I mean by a Whig, not one who subscribes
implicitly to the contents of any book, though that book may have
been written by Locke; not one who approves the whole conduct of
any statesman, though that statesman may have been Fox; not one
who adopts the opinions in fashion in any circle, though that
circle may be composed of the finest and noblest spirits of the
age. But it seems to me that, when I look back on our history, I
can discern a great party which has, through many generations,
preserved its identity; a party often depressed, never
extinguished; a party which, though often tainted with the faults
of the age, has always been in advance of the age; a party which,
though guilty of many errors and some crimes, has the glory of
having established our civil and religious liberties on a firm
foundation; and of that party I am proud to be a member. It was
that party which, on the great question of monopolies, stood up
against Elizabeth. It was that party which, in the reign of
James the First, organised the earliest parliamentary opposition,
which steadily asserted the privileges of the people, and wrested
prerogative after prerogative from the Crown. It was that party
which forced Charles the First to relinquish the ship-money. It
was that party which destroyed the Star Chamber and the High
Commission Court. It was that party which, under Charles the
Second, carried the Habeas Corpus Act, which effected the
Revolution, which passed the Toleration Act, which broke the yoke
of a foreign church in your country, and which saved Scotland
from the fate of unhappy Ireland. It was that party which reared
and maintained the constitutional throne of Hanover against the
hostility of the Church and of the landed aristocracy of England.
It was that party which opposed the war with America and the war
with the French Republic; which imparted the blessings of our
free Constitution to the Dissenters; and which, at a later
period, by unparalleled sacrifices and exertions, extended the
same blessings to the Roman Catholics. To the Whigs of the
seventeenth century we owe it that we have a House of Commons.
To the Whigs of the nineteenth century we owe it that the House
of Commons has been purified. The abolition of the slave trade,
the abolition of colonial slavery, the extension of popular
education, the mitigation of the rigour of the penal code, all,
all were effected by that party; and of that party, I repeat, I
am a member. I look with pride on all that the Whigs have done
for the cause of human freedom and of human happiness. I see
them now hard pressed, struggling with difficulties, but still
fighting the good fight. At their head I see men who have
inherited the spirit and the virtues, as well as the blood, of
old champions and martyrs of freedom. To those men I propose to
attach myself. Delusion may triumph: but the triumphs of
delusion are but for a day. We may be defeated: but our
principles will only gather fresh strength from defeats. Be
that, however, as it may, my part is taken. While one shred of
the old banner is flying, by that banner will I at least be
found. The good old cause, as Sidney called it on the scaffold,
vanquished or victorious, insulted or triumphant, the good old
cause is still the good old cause with me. Whether in or out of
Parliament, whether speaking with that authority which must
always belong to the representative of this great and enlightened
community, or expressing the humble sentiments of a private
citizen, I will to the last maintain inviolate my fidelity to
principles which, though they may be borne down for a time by
senseless clamour, are yet strong with the strength and immortal
with the immortality of truth, and which, however they may be
misunderstood or misrepresented by contemporaries, will assuredly
find justice from a better age. Gentlemen, I have done. I have
only to thank you for the kind attention with which you have
heard me, and to express my hope that whether my principles have
met with your concurrence or not, the frankness with which I have
expressed them will at least obtain your approbation.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 29TH OF JANUARY
1840.
On the twenty-eighth of January 1840, Sir John Yarde Buller moved
the following resolution:
"That Her Majesty's Government, as at present constituted, does
not possess the confidence of the House."
After a discussion of four nights the motion was rejected by 308
votes to 287. The following Speech was made on the second night
of the debate.
The House, Sir, may possibly imagine that I rise under some
little feeling of irritation to reply to the personal reflections
which have been introduced into the discussion. It would be easy
to reply to these reflections. It would be still easier to
retort them: but I should think either course unworthy of me and
of this great occasion. If ever I should so far forget myself as
to wander from the subject of debate to matters concerning only
myself, it will not, I hope, be at a time when the dearest
interests of our country are staked on the result of our
deliberations. I rise under feelings of anxiety which leave no
room in my mind for selfish vanity or petty vindictiveness. I
believe with the most intense conviction that, in pleading for
the Government to which I belong, I am pleading for the safety of
the Commonwealth, for the reformation of abuses, and at the same
time for the preservation of august and venerable institutions:
and I trust, Mr Speaker, that when the question is whether a
Cabinet be or be not worthy of the confidence of Parliament, the
first Member of that Cabinet who comes forward to defend himself
and his colleagues will find here some portion of that generosity
and good feeling which once distinguished English gentlemen. But
be this as it may, my voice shall be heard. I repeat, that I am
pleading at once for the reformation and for the preservation of
our institutions, for liberty and order, for justice administered
in mercy, for equal laws, for the rights of conscience, and for
the real union of Great Britain and Ireland. If, on so grave an
occasion, I should advert to one or two of the charges which have
been brought against myself personally, I shall do so only
because I conceive that those charges affect in some degree the
character of the Government to which I belong.
One of the chief accusations brought against the Government by
the honourable Baronet (Sir John Yarde Buller.) who opened the
debate, and repeated by the seconder (Alderman Thompson.), and by
almost every gentlemen who has addressed the House from the
benches opposite, is that I have been invited to take office
though my opinion with respect to the Ballot is known to be
different from that of my colleagues. We have been repeatedly
told that a Ministry in which there is not perfect unanimity on a
subject so important must be undeserving of the public
confidence. Now, Sir, it is true that I am in favour of secret
voting, that my noble and right honourable friends near me are in
favour of open voting, and yet that we sit in the same Cabinet.
But if, on account of this difference of opinion, the Government
is unworthy of public confidence, then I am sure that scarcely
any government which has existed within the memory of the oldest
man has been deserving of public confidence. It is well-known
that in the Cabinets of Mr Pitt, of Mr Fox, of Lord Liverpool, of
Mr Canning, of the Duke of Wellington, there were open questions
of great moment. Mr Pitt, while still zealous for parliamentary
reform, brought into the Cabinet Lord Grenville, who was adverse
to parliamentary reform. Again, Mr Pitt, while eloquently
supporting the abolition of the Slave Trade, brought into the
Cabinet Mr Dundas, who was the chief defender of the Slave Trade.
Mr Fox, too, intense as was his abhorrence of the Slave Trade,
sat in the same Cabinet with Lord Sidmouth and Mr Windham, who
voted to the last against the abolition of that trade. Lord
Liverpool, Mr Canning, the Duke of Wellington, all left the
question of Catholic Emancipation open. And yet, of all
questions, that was perhaps the very last that should have been
left open. For it was not merely a legislative question, but a
question which affected every part of the executive
administration. But, to come to the present time, suppose that
you could carry your resolution, suppose that you could drive the
present Ministers from power, who that may succeed them will be
able to form a government in which there will be no open
questions? Can the right honourable Baronet the member for
Tamworth (Sir Robert Peel.) form a Cabinet without leaving the
great question of our privileges open? In what respect is that
question less important than the question of the Ballot? Is it
not indeed from the privileges of the House that all questions
relating to the constitution of the House derive their
importance? What does it matter how we are chosen, if, when we
meet, we do not possess the powers necessary to enable us to
perform the functions of a legislative assembly? Yet you who
would turn out the present Ministers because they differ from
each other as to the way in which Members of this House should be
chosen, wish to bring in men who decidedly differ from each other
as to the relation in which this House stands to the nation, to
the other House, and to the Courts of Judicature. Will you say
that the dispute between the House and the Court of Queen's Bench
is a trifling dispute? Surely, in the late debates, you were all
perfectly agreed as to the importance of the question, though you
were agreed as to nothing else. Some of you told us that we were
contending for a power essential to our honour and usefulness.
Many of you protested against our proceedings, and declared that
we were encroaching on the province of the tribunals, violating
the liberty of our fellow citizens, punishing honest magistrates
for not perjuring themselves. Are these trifles? And can we
believe that you really feel a horror of open questions when we
see your Prime Minister elect sending people to prison overnight,
and his law officers elect respectfully attending the levee of
those prisoners the next morning? Observe, too, that this
question of privileges is not merely important; it is also
pressing. Something must be done, and that speedily. My belief
is that more inconvenience would follow from leaving that
question open one month than from leaving the question of the
Ballot open ten years.
The Ballot, Sir, is not the only subject on which I am accused of
holding dangerous opinions. The right honourable Baronet the
Member for Pembroke (Sir James Graham.) pronounces the present
Government a Chartist Government; and he proves his point by
saying that I am a member of the government, and that I wish to
give the elective franchise to every ten pound householder,
whether his house be in a town or in the country. Is it
possible, Sir, that the honourable Baronet should not know that
the fundamental principle of the plan of government called the
People's Charter is that every male of twenty-one should have a
vote? Or is it possible that he can see no difference between
giving the franchise to all ten pound householders, and giving
the franchise to all males of twenty-one? Does he think the ten
pound householders a class morally or intellectually unfit to
possess the franchise, he who bore a chief part in framing the
law which gave them the franchise in all the represented towns of
the United Kingdom? Or will he say that the ten pound
householder in a town is morally and intellectually fit to be an
elector, but that the ten pound householder who lives in the open
country is morally and intellectually unfit? Is not house-rent
notoriously higher in towns than in the country? Is it not,
therefore, probable that the occupant of a ten pound house in a
rural hamlet will be a man who has a greater stake in the peace
and welfare of society than a man who has a ten pound house in
Manchester or Birmingham? Can you defend on conservative
principles an arrangement which gives votes to a poorer class and
withholds them from a richer? For my own part, I believe it to
be essential to the welfare of the state, that the elector should
have a pecuniary qualification. I believe that the ten pound
qualification cannot be proved to be either too high or too low.
Changes, which may hereafter take place in the value of money and
in the condition of the people, may make a change of the
qualification necessary. But the ten pound qualification is, I
believe, well suited to the present state of things. At any
rate, I am unable to conceive why it should be a sufficient
qualification within the limits of a borough, and an insufficient
qualification a yard beyond those limits; sufficient at
Knightsbridge, but insufficient at Kensington; sufficient at
Lambeth, but insufficient at Battersea? If any person calls this
Chartism, he must permit me to tell him that he does not know
what Chartism is.
A motion, Sir, such as that which we are considering, brings
under our review the whole policy of the kingdom, domestic,
foreign, and colonial. It is not strange, therefore, that there
should have been several episodes in this debate. Something has
been said about the hostilities on the River Plata, something
about the hostilities on the coast of China, something about
Commissioner Lin, something about Captain Elliot. But on such
points I shall not dwell, for it is evidently not by the opinion
which the House may entertain on such points that the event of
the debate will be decided. The main argument of the gentlemen
who support the motion, the argument on which the right
honourable Baronet who opened the debate chiefly relied, the
argument which his seconder repeated, and which has formed the
substance of every speech since delivered from the opposite side
of the House, may be fairly summed up thus, "The country is not
in a satisfactory state. There is much recklessness, much
turbulence, much craving for political change; and the cause of
these evils is the policy of the Whigs. They rose to power by
agitation in 1830: they retained power by means of agitation
through the tempestuous months which followed: they carried the
Reform Bill by means of agitation: expelled from office, they
forced themselves in again by means of agitation; and now we are
paying the penalty of their misconduct. Chartism is the natural
offspring of Whiggism. From those who caused the evil we cannot
expect the remedy. The first thing to be done is to dismiss
them, and to call to power men who, not having instigated the
people to commit excesses, can, without incurring the charge of
inconsistency, enforce the laws."
Now, Sir, it seems to me that this argument was completely
refuted by the able and eloquent speech of my right honourable
friend the Judge Advocate. (Sir George Grey.) He said, and he
said most truly, that those who hold this language are really
accusing, not the Government of Lord Melbourne, but the
Government of Lord Grey. I was therefore, I must say, surprised,
after the speech of my right honourable friend, to hear the right
honourable Baronet the Member for Pembroke, himself a
distinguished member of the cabinet of Lord Grey, pronounce a
harangue against agitation. That he was himself an agitator he
does not venture to deny; but he tries to excuse himself by
saying, "I liked the Reform Bill; I thought it a good bill; and
so I agitated for it; and, in agitating for it, I acknowledge
that I went to the very utmost limit of what was prudent, to the
very utmost limit of what was legal." Does not the right
honourable Baronet perceive that, by setting up this defence for
his own past conduct, he admits that agitation is good or evil,
according as the objects of the agitation are good or evil? When
I hear him speak of agitation as a practice disgraceful to a
public man, and especially to a Minister of the Crown, and
address his lecture in a particular manner to me, I cannot but
wonder that he should not perceive that his reproaches, instead
of wounding me, recoil on himself. I was not a member of the
Cabinet which brought in the Reform Bill, which dissolved the
Parliament in a moment of intense excitement in order to carry
the Reform Bill, which refused to serve the Sovereign longer
unless he would create peers in sufficient numbers to carry the
Reform Bill. I was at that time only one of those hundreds of
members of this House, one of those millions of Englishmen, who
were deeply impressed with the conviction that the Reform Bill
was one of the best laws that ever had been framed, and who
reposed entire confidence in the abilities, the integrity, and
the patriotism of the ministers; and I must add that in no member
of the administration did I place more confidence than in the
right honourable Baronet, who was then First Lord of the
Admiralty, and in the noble lord who was then Secretary for
Ireland. (Lord Stanley.) It was indeed impossible for me not to
see that the public mind was strongly, was dangerously stirred:
but I trusted that men so able, men so upright, men who had so
large a stake in the country, would carry us safe through the
storm which they had raised. And is it not rather hard that my
confidence in the right honourable Baronet and the noble lord is
to be imputed to me as a crime by the very men who are trying to
raise the right honourable Baronet and the noble lord to power?
The Charter, we have been told in this debate, is the child of
the Reform Bill. But whose child is the Reform Bill? If men are
to be deemed unfit for office because they roused the national
spirit to support that bill, because they went as far as the law
permitted in order to carry that bill, then I say that no men can
be more unfit for office than the right honourable Baronet and
the noble lord. It may be thought presumptuous in me to defend
two persons who are so well able to defend themselves, and the
more so, as they have a powerful ally in the right honourable
Baronet the Member for Tamworth, who, having twice offered them
high places in the Government, must be supposed to be of opinion
that they are not disqualified for being ministers by having been
agitators. I will, however, venture to offer some arguments in
vindication of the conduct of my noble and right honourable
friends, as I once called them, and as, notwithstanding the
asperity which has characterised the present debate, I should
still have pleasure in calling them. I would say in their behalf
that agitation ought not to be indiscriminately condemned; that
great abuses ought to be removed; that in this country scarcely
any great abuse was ever removed till the public feeling had been
roused against it; and that the public feeling has seldom been
roused against abuses without exertions to which the name of
agitation may be given. I altogether deny the assertion which we
have repeatedly heard in the course of this debate, that a
government which does not discountenance agitation cannot be
trusted to suppress rebellion. Agitation and rebellion, you say,
are in kind the same thing: they differ only in degree. Sir,
they are the same thing in the sense in which to breathe a vein
and to cut a throat are the same thing. There are many points of
resemblance between the act of the surgeon and the act of the
assassin. In both there is the steel, the incision, the smart,
the bloodshed. But the acts differ as widely as possible both in
moral character and in physical effect. So with agitation and
rebellion. I do not believe that there has been any moment since
the revolution of 1688 at which an insurrection in this country
would have been justifiable. On the other hand, I hold that we
have owed to agitation a long series of beneficent reforms which
could have been effected in no other way. Nor do I understand
how any person can reprobate agitation, merely as agitation,
unless he is prepared to adopt the maxim of Bishop Horsley, that
the people have nothing to do with the laws but to obey them.
The truth is that agitation is inseparable from popular
government. If you wish to get rid of agitation, you must
establish an oligarchy like that of Venice, or a despotism like
that of Russia. If a Russian thinks that he is able to suggest
an improvement in the commercial code or the criminal code of his
country, he tries to obtain an audience of the Emperor Nicholas
or of Count Nesselrode. If he can satisfy them that his plans
are good, then undoubtedly, without agitation, without
controversy in newspapers, without harangues from hustings,
without clamorous meetings in great halls and in marketplaces,
without petitions signed by tens of thousands, you may have a
reform effected with one stroke of the pen. Not so here. Here
the people, as electors, have power to decide questions of the
highest importance. And ought they not to hear and read before
they decide? And how can they hear if nobody speaks, or read if
nobody writes? You must admit, then, that it is our right, and
that it may be our duty, to attempt by speaking and writing to
induce the great body of our countrymen to pronounce what we
think a right decision; and what else is agitation? In saying
this I am not defending one party alone. Has there been no Tory
agitation? No agitation against Popery? No agitation against
the new Poor Law? No agitation against the plan of education
framed by the present Government? Or, to pass from questions
about which we differ to questions about which we all agree:
Would the slave trade ever have been abolished without agitation?
Would slavery ever have been abolished without agitation? Would
your prison discipline ever have been improved without agitation?
Would your penal code, once the scandal of the Statute Book, have
been mitigated without agitation? I am far from denying that
agitation may be abused, may be employed for bad ends, may be
carried to unjustifiable lengths. So may that freedom of speech
which is one of the most precious privileges of this House.
Indeed, the analogy is very close. What is agitation but the
mode in which the public, the body which we represent, the great
outer assembly, if I may so speak, holds its debates? It is as
necessary to the good government of the country that our
constituents should debate as that we should debate. They
sometimes go wrong, as we sometimes go wrong. There is often
much exaggeration, much unfairness, much acrimony in their
debates. Is there none in ours? Some worthless demagogues may
have exhorted the people to resist the laws. But what member of
Lord Grey's Government, what member of the present Government,
ever gave any countenance to any illegal proceedings? It is
perfectly true that some words which have been uttered here and
in other places, and which, when taken together with the context
and candidly construed, will appear to mean nothing but what was
reasonable and constitutional and moderate, have been distorted
and mutilated into something that has a seditious aspect. But
who is secure against such misrepresentation? Not, I am sure,
the right honourable Baronet the Member for Pembroke. He ought
to remember that his own speeches have been used by bad men for
bad ends. He ought to remember that some expressions which he
used in 1830, on the subject of the emoluments divided among
Privy Councillors, have been quoted by the Chartists in
vindication of their excesses. Do I blame him for this? Not at
all. He said nothing that was not justifiable. But it is
impossible for a man so to guard his lips that his language shall
not sometimes be misunderstood by dull men, and sometimes
misrepresented by dishonest men. I do not, I say, blame him for
having used those expressions: but I do say that, knowing how
his own expressions had been perverted, he should have hesitated
before he threw upon men, not less attached than himself to the
cause of law, of order and property, imputations certainly not
better founded than those to which he is himself liable.
And now, Sir, to pass by many topics to which, but for the
lateness of the hour, I would willingly advert, let me remind the
House that the question before us is not a positive question, but
a question of comparison. No man, though he may disapprove of
some part of the conduct of the present Ministers, is justified
in voting for the motion which we are considering, unless he
believes that a change would, on the whole, be beneficial. No
government is perfect: but some government there must be; and if
the present government were worse than its enemies think it, it
ought to exist until it can be succeeded by a better. Now I take
it to be perfectly clear that, in the event of the removal of Her
Majesty's present advisers, an administration must be formed of
which the right honourable Baronet the Member for Tamworth will
be the head. Towards that right honourable Baronet, and towards
many of the noblemen and gentlemen who would probably in that
event be associated with him, I entertain none but kind and
respectful feelings. I am far, I hope, from that narrowness of
mind which makes a man unable to see merit in any party but his
own. If I may venture to parody the old Venetian proverb, I
would be "First an Englishman; and then a Whig." I feel proud of
my country when I think how much ability, uprightness, and
patriotism may be found on both sides of the House. Among our
opponents stands forth, eminently distinguished by parts,
eloquence, knowledge, and, I willingly admit, by public spirit,
the right honourable Baronet the Member for Tamworth. Having
said this, I shall offer no apology for the remarks which, in the
discharge of my public duty, I shall make, without, I hope, any
personal discourtesy, on his past conduct, and his present
position.
It has been, Sir, I will not say his fault, but his misfortune,
his fate, to be the leader of a party with which he has no
sympathy. To go back to what is now matter of history, the right
honourable Baronet bore a chief part in the restoration of the
currency. By a very large proportion of his followers the
restoration of the currency is considered as the chief cause of
the distresses of the country. The right honourable Baronet
cordially supported the commercial policy of Mr Huskisson. But
there was no name more odious than that of Mr Huskisson to the
rank and file of the Tory party. The right honourable Baronet
assented to the Act which removed the disabilities of the
Protestant Dissenters. But, a very short time ago, a noble Duke,
one of the highest in power and rank of the right honourable
Baronet's adherents, positively refused to lend his aid to the
executing of that Act. The right honourable Baronet brought in
the bill which removed the disabilities of the Roman Catholics:
but his supporters make it a chief article of charge against us
that we have given practical effect to the law which is his best
title to public esteem. The right honourable Baronet has
declared himself decidedly favourable to the new Poor Law. Yet,
if a voice is raised against the Whig Bastilles and the Kings of
Somerset House, it is almost certain to be the voice of some
zealous retainer of the right honourable Baronet. On the great
question of privilege, the right honourable Baronet has taken a
part which entitles him to the gratitude of all who are
solicitous for the honour and the usefulness of the popular
branch of the legislature. But if any person calls us tyrants,
and calls those whom we have imprisoned martyrs, that person is
certain to be a partisan of the right honourable Baronet. Even
when the right honourable Baronet does happen to agree with his
followers as to a conclusion, he seldom arrives at that
conclusion by the same process of reasoning which satisfies them.
Many great questions which they consider as questions of right
and wrong, as questions of moral and religious principle, as
questions which must, for no earthly object, and on no emergency,
be compromised, are treated by him merely as questions of
expediency, of place, and of time. He has opposed many bills
introduced by the present Government; but he has opposed them on
such grounds that he is at perfect liberty to bring in the same
bills himself next year, with perhaps some slight variation. I
listened to him as I always listen to him, with pleasure, when he
spoke last session on the subject of education. I could not but
be amused by the skill with which he performed the hard task of
translating the gibberish of bigots into language which might not
misbecome the mouth of a man of sense. I felt certain that he
despised the prejudices of which he condescended to make use, and
that his opinion about the Normal Schools and the Douai Version
entirely agreed with my own. I therefore do not think that, in
times like these, the right honourable Baronet can conduct the
administration with honour to himself or with satisfaction to
those who are impatient to see him in office. I will not affect
to feel apprehensions from which I am entirely free. I do not
fear, and I will not pretend to fear, that the right honourable
Baronet will be a tyrant and a persecutor. I do not believe that
he will give up Ireland to the tender mercies of those zealots
who form, I am afraid, the strongest, and I am sure the loudest,
part of his retinue. I do not believe that he will strike the
names of Roman Catholics from the Privy Council book, and from
the Commissions of the Peace. I do not believe that he will lay
on our table a bill for the repeal of that great Act which was
introduced by himself in 1829. What I do anticipate is this,
that he will attempt to keep his party together by means which
will excite grave discontents, and yet that he will not succeed
in keeping his party together; that he will lose the support of
the Tories without obtaining the support of the nation; and that
his government will fall from causes purely internal.
This, Sir, is not mere conjecture. The drama is not a new one.
It was performed a few years ago on the same stage and by most of
the same actors. In 1827 the right honourable Baronet was, as
now, the head of a powerful Tory opposition. He had, as now, the
support of a strong minority in this House. He had, as now, a
majority in the other House. He was, as now, the favourite of
the Church and of the Universities. All who dreaded political
change, all who hated religious liberty, rallied round him then,
as they rally round him now. Their cry was then, as now, that a
government unfriendly to the civil and ecclesiastical
constitution of the realm was kept in power by intrigue and court
favour, and that the right honourable Baronet was the man to whom
the nation must look to defend its laws against revolutionists,
and its religion against idolaters. At length that cry became
irresistible. Tory animosity had pursued the most accomplished
of Tory statesmen and orators to a resting place in Westminster
Abbey. The arrangement which was made after his death lasted but
a very few months: a Tory government was formed; and the right
honourable Baronet became the leading minister of the Crown in
the House of Commons. His adherents hailed his elevation with
clamorous delight, and confidently expected many years of triumph
and dominion. Is it necessary to say in what disappointment, in
what sorrow, in what fury, those expectations ended? The right
honourable Baronet had been raised to power by prejudices and
passions in which he had no share. His followers were bigots.
He was a statesman. He was coolly weighing conveniences against
inconveniences, while they were ready to resort to a proscription
and to hazard a civil war rather than depart from what they
called their principles. For a time he tried to take a middle
course. He imagined that it might be possible for him to stand
well with his old friends, and yet to perform some part of his
duty to the state. But those were not times in which he could
long continue to halt between two opinions. His elevation, as it
had excited the hopes of the oppressors, had excited also the
terror and the rage of the oppressed. Agitation, which had,
during more than a year, slumbered in Ireland, awoke with renewed
vigour, and soon became more formidable than ever. The Roman
Catholic Association began to exercise authority such as the
Irish Parliament, in the days of its independence, had never
possessed. An agitator became more powerful than the Lord
Lieutenant. Violence engendered violence. Every explosion of
feeling on one side of St George's Channel was answered by a
louder explosion on the other. The Clare election, the Penenden
Heath meeting showed that the time for evasion and delay was
past. A crisis had arrived which made it absolutely necessary
for the Government to take one side or the other. A simple issue
was proposed to the right honourable Baronet, concession or civil
war; to disgust his party, or to ruin his country. He chose the
good part. He performed a duty, deeply painful, in some sense
humiliating, yet in truth highly honourable to him. He came down
to this House and proposed the emancipation of the Roman
Catholics. Among his adherents were some who, like himself, had
opposed the Roman Catholic claims merely on the ground of
political expediency; and these persons readily consented to
support his new policy. But not so the great body of his
followers. Their zeal for Protestant ascendency was a ruling
passion, a passion, too, which they thought it a virtue to
indulge. They had exerted themselves to raise to power the man
whom they regarded as the ablest and most trusty champion of that
ascendency; and he had not only abandoned the good cause, but had
become its adversary. Who can forget in what a roar of obloquy
their anger burst forth? Never before was such a flood of
calumny and invective poured on a single head. All history, all
fiction were ransacked by the old friends of the right honourable
Baronet, for nicknames and allusions. One right honourable
gentleman, who I am sorry not to see in his place opposite, found
English prose too weak to express his indignation, and pursued
his perfidious chief with reproaches borrowed from the ravings of
the deserted Dido. Another Tory explored Holy Writ for
parallels, and could find no parallel but Judas Iscariot. The
great university which had been proud to confer on the right
honourable Baronet the highest marks of favour, was foremost in
affixing the brand of infamy. From Cornwall, from
Northumberland, clergymen came up by hundreds to Oxford, in order
to vote against him whose presence, a few days before, would have
set the bells of their parish churches jingling. Nay, such was
the violence of this new enmity that the old enmity of the Tories
to Whigs, Radicals, Dissenters, Papists, seemed to be forgotten.
That Ministry which, when it came into power at the close of
1828, was one of the strongest that the country ever saw, was, at
the close of 1829, one of the weakest. It lingered another year,
staggering between two parties, leaning now on one, now on the
other, reeling sometimes under a blow from the right, sometimes
under a blow from the left, and certain to fall as soon as the
Tory opposition and the Whig opposition could find a question on
which to unite. Such a question was found: and that Ministry
fell without a struggle.
Now what I wish to know is this. What reason have we to believe
that any administration which the right honourable Baronet can
now form will have a different fate? Is he changed since 1829?
Is his party changed? He is, I believe, still the same, still a
statesman, moderate in opinions, cautious in temper, perfectly
free from that fanaticism which inflames so many of his
supporters. As to his party, I admit that it is not the same;
for it is very much worse. It is decidedly fiercer and more
unreasonable than it was eleven years ago. I judge by its public
meetings; I judge by its journals; I judge by its pulpits,
pulpits which every week resound with ribaldry and slander such
as would disgrace the hustings. A change has come over the
spirit of a part, I hope not the larger part, of the Tory body.
It was once the glory of the Tories that, through all changes of
fortune, they were animated by a steady and fervent loyalty which
made even error respectable, and gave to what might otherwise
have been called servility something of the manliness and
nobleness of freedom. A great Tory poet, whose eminent services
to the cause of monarchy had been ill requited by an ungrateful
Court, boasted that
"Loyalty is still the same,
Whether it win or lose the game;
True as the dial to the sun,
Although it be not shined upon."
Toryism has now changed its character. We have lived to see a
monster of a faction made up of the worst parts of the Cavalier
and the worst parts of the Roundhead. We have lived to see a
race of disloyal Tories. We have lived to see Tories giving
themselves the airs of those insolent pikemen who puffed out
their tobacco smoke in the face of Charles the First. We have
lived to see Tories who, because they are not allowed to grind
the people after the fashion of Strafford, turn round and revile
the Sovereign in the style of Hugh Peters. I say, therefore,
that, while the leader is still what he was eleven years ago,
when his moderation alienated his intemperate followers, his
followers are more intemperate than ever. It is my firm belief
that the majority of them desire the repeal of the Emancipation
Act. You say, no. But I will give reasons, and unanswerable
reasons, for what I say. How, if you really wish to maintain the
Emancipation Act, do you explain that clamour which you have
raised, and which has resounded through the whole kingdom, about
the three Popish Privy Councillors? You resent, as a calumny,
the imputation that you wish to repeal the Emancipation Act; and
yet you cry out that Church and State are in danger of ruin
whenever the Government carries that Act into effect. If the
Emancipation Act is never to be executed, why should it not be
repealed? I perfectly understand that an honest man may wish it
to be repealed. But I am at a loss to understand how honest men
can say, "We wish the Emancipation Act to be maintained: you who
accuse us of wishing to repeal it slander us foully: we value it
as much as you do. Let it remain among our statutes, provided
always that it remains as a dead letter. If you dare to put it
in force, indeed, we will agitate against you; for, though we
talk against agitation, we too can practice agitation: we will
denounce you in our associations; for, though we call
associations unconstitutional, we too have our associations: our
divines shall preach about Jezebel: our tavern spouters shall
give significant hints about James the Second." Yes, Sir, such
hints have been given, hints that a sovereign who has merely
executed the law, ought to be treated like a sovereign who
grossly violated the law. I perfectly understand, as I said,
that an honest man may disapprove of the Emancipation Act, and
may wish it repealed. But can any man, who is of opinion that
Roman Catholics ought to be admitted to office, honestly maintain
that they now enjoy more than their fair share of power and
emolument? What is the proportion of Roman Catholics to the
whole population of the United Kingdom? About one-fourth. What
proportion of the Privy Councillors are Roman Catholics? About
one-seventieth. And what, after all, is the power of a Privy
Councillor, merely as such? Are not the right honourable
gentlemen opposite Privy Councillors? If a change should take
place, will not the present Ministers still be Privy Councillors?
It is notorious that no Privy Councillor goes to Council unless
he is specially summoned. He is called Right Honourable, and he
walks out of a room before Esquires and Knights. And can we
seriously believe that men who think it monstrous that this
honorary distinction should be given to three Roman Catholics, do
sincerely desire to maintain a law by which a Roman Catholic may
be Commander in Chief with all the military patronage, First Lord
of the Admiralty with all the naval patronage, or First Lord of
the Treasury, with the chief influence in every department of the
Government. I must therefore suppose that those who join in the
cry against the three Privy Councillors, are either imbecile or
hostile to the Emancipation Act.
I repeat, therefore, that, while the right honourable Baronet is
as free from bigotry as he was eleven years ago, his party is
more bigoted than it was eleven years ago. The difficulty of
governing Ireland in opposition to the feelings of the great body
of the Irish people is, I apprehend, as great now as it was
eleven years ago. What then must be the fate of a government
formed by the right honourable Baronet? Suppose that the event
of this debate should make him Prime Minister? Should I be wrong
if I were to prophesy that three years hence he will be more
hated and vilified by the Tory party than the present advisers of
the Crown have been? Should I be wrong if I were to say that all
those literary organs which now deafen us with praise of him,
will then deafen us with abuse of him? Should I be wrong if I
were to say that he will be burned in effigy by those who now
drink his health with three times three and one cheer more?
Should I be wrong if I were to say that those very gentlemen who
have crowded hither to-night in order to vote him into power,
will crowd hither to vote Lord Melbourne back? Once already have
I seen those very persons go out into the lobby for the purpose
of driving the right honourable Baronet from the high situation
to which they had themselves exalted him. I went out with them
myself; yes, with the whole body of the Tory country gentlemen,
with the whole body of high Churchmen. All the four University
Members were with us. The effect of that division was to bring
Lord Grey, Lord Althorpe, Lord Brougham, Lord Durham into power.
You may say that the Tories on that occasion judged ill, that
they were blinded by vindictive passion, that if they had
foreseen all that followed they might have acted differently.
Perhaps so. But what has been once may be again. I cannot think
it possible that those who are now supporting the right
honourable Baronet will continue from personal attachment to
support him if they see that his policy is in essentials the same
as Lord Melbourne's. I believe that they have quite as much
personal attachment to Lord Melbourne as to the right honourable
Baronet. They follow the right honourable Baronet because his
abilities, his eloquence, his experience are necessary to them;
but they are but half reconciled to him. They never can forget
that, in the most important crisis of his public life, he
deliberately chose rather to be the victim of their injustice
than its instrument. It is idle to suppose that they will be
satisfied by seeing a new set of men in power. Their maxim is
most truly "Measures, not men." They care not before whom the
sword of state is borne at Dublin, or who wears the badge of St
Patrick. What they abhor is not Lord Normanby personally or Lord
Ebrington personally, but the great principles in conformity with
which Ireland has been governed by Lord Normanby and by Lord
Ebrington, the principles of justice, humanity, and religious
freedom. What they wish to have in Ireland is not my Lord
Haddington, or any other viceroy whom the right honourable
Baronet may select, but the tyranny of race over race, and of
creed over creed. Give them what they want; and you convulse the
empire. Refuse them; and you dissolve the Tory party. I believe
that the right honourable Baronet himself is by no means without
apprehensions that, if he were now called to the head of affairs,
he would, very speedily, have the dilemma of 1829 again before
him. He certainly was not without such apprehensions when, a few
months ago, he was commanded by Her Majesty to submit to her the
plan of an administration. The aspect of public affairs was not
at that time cheering. The Chartists were stirring in England.
There were troubles in Canada. There were great discontents in
the West Indies. An expedition, of which the event was still
doubtful, had been sent into the heart of Asia. Yet, among many
causes of anxiety, the discerning eye of the right honourable
Baronet easily discerned the quarter where the great and
immediate danger lay. He told the House that his difficulty
would be Ireland. Now, Sir, that which would be the difficulty
of his administration is the strength of the present
administration. Her Majesty's Ministers enjoy the confidence of
Ireland; and I believe that what ought to be done for that
country will excite less discontent here if done by them than if
done by him. He, I am afraid, great as his abilities are, and
good as I willingly admit his intentions to be, would find it
easy to lose the confidence of his partisans, but hard indeed to
win the confidence of the Irish people.
It is indeed principally on account of Ireland that I feel
solicitous about the issue of the present debate. I well know
how little chance he who speaks on that theme has of obtaining a
fair hearing. Would to God that I were addressing an audience
which would judge this great controversy as it is judged by
foreign nations, and as it will be judged by future ages. The
passions which inflame us, the sophisms which delude us, will not
last for ever. The paroxysms of faction have their appointed
season. Even the madness of fanaticism is but for a day. The
time is coming when our conflicts will be to others what the
conflicts of our forefathers are to us; when the preachers who
now disturb the State, and the politicians who now make a
stalking horse of the Church, will be no more than Sacheverel and
Harley. Then will be told, in language very different from that
which now calls forth applause from the mob of Exeter Hall, the
true story of these troubled years.
There was, it will then be said, a part of the kingdom of Queen
Victoria which presented a lamentable contrast to the rest; not
from the want of natural fruitfulness, for there was no richer
soil in Europe; not from want of facilities for trade, for the
coasts of this unhappy region were indented by bays and estuaries
capable of holding all the navies of the world; not because the
people were too dull to improve these advantages or too
pusillanimous to defend them; for in natural quickness of wit and
gallantry of spirit they ranked high among the nations. But all
the bounty of nature had been made unavailing by the crimes and
errors of man. In the twelfth century that fair island was a
conquered province. The nineteenth century found it a conquered
province still. During that long interval many great changes had
taken place which had conduced to the general welfare of the
empire: but those changes had only aggravated the misery of
Ireland. The Reformation came, bringing to England and Scotland
divine truth and intellectual liberty. To Ireland it brought
only fresh calamities. Two new war cries, Protestant and
Catholic, animated the old feud between the Englishry and the
Irishry. The Revolution came, bringing to England and Scotland
civil and spiritual freedom, to Ireland subjugation, degradation,
persecution. The Union came: but though it joined legislatures,
it left hearts as widely disjoined as ever. Catholic
Emancipation came: but it came too late; it came as a concession
made to fear, and, having excited unreasonable hopes, was
naturally followed by unreasonable disappointment. Then came
violent irritation, and numerous errors on both sides. Agitation
produced coercion, and coercion produced fresh agitation.
Difficulties and dangers went on increasing, till a government
arose which, all other means having failed, determined to employ
the only means that had not yet been fairly tried, justice and
mercy. The State, long the stepmother of the many, and the
mother only of the few, became for the first time the common
parent of all the great family. The body of the people began to
look on their rulers as friends. Battalion after battalion,
squadron after squadron was withdrawn from districts which, as it
had till then been thought, could be governed by the sword alone.
Yet the security of property and the authority of law became
every day more complete. Symptoms of amendment, symptoms such as
cannot be either concealed or counterfeited, began to appear; and
those who once despaired of the destinies of Ireland began to
entertain a confident hope that she would at length take among
European nations that high place to which her natural resources
and the intelligence of her children entitle her to aspire.
In words such as these, I am confident, will the next generation
speak of the events in our time. Relying on the sure justice of
history and posterity, I care not, as far as I am personally
concerned, whether we stand or fall. That issue it is for the
House to decide. Whether the result will be victory or defeat, I
know not. But I know that there are defeats not less glorious
than any victory; and yet I have shared in some glorious
victories. Those were proud and happy days;--some who sit on the
benches opposite can well remember, and must, I think, regret
them;--those were proud and happy days when, amidst the applauses
and blessings of millions, my noble friend led us on in the great
struggle for the Reform Bill; when hundreds waited round our
doors till sunrise to hear how we had sped; when the great cities
of the north poured forth their population on the highways to
meet the mails which brought from the capital the tidings whether
the battle of the people had been lost or won. Such days my
noble friend cannot hope to see again. Two such triumphs would
be too much for one life. But perhaps there still awaits him a
less pleasing, a less exhilarating, but a not less honourable
task, the task of contending against superior numbers, and
through years of discomfiture, for those civil and religious
liberties which are inseparably associated with the name of his
illustrious house. At his side will not be wanting men who
against all odds, and through all turns of fortune, in evil days
and amidst evil tongues, will defend to the last, with unabated
spirit, the noble principles of Milton and of Locke. We may be
driven from office. We may be doomed to a life of opposition.
We may be made marks for the rancour of sects which, hating each
other with a deadly hatred, yet hate toleration still more. We
may be exposed to the rage of Laud on one side, and of Praise-
God-Barebones on the other. But justice will be done at last:
and a portion of the praise which we bestow on the old champions
and martyrs of freedom will not be refused by future generations
to the men who have in our days endeavoured to bind together in
real union races too long estranged, and to efface, by the mild
influence of a parental government, the fearful traces which have
been left by the misrule of ages.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 7TH OF APRIL,
1840.
On the seventh of April, 1840, Sir James Graham moved the
following resolution:
"That it appears to this House, on consideration of the papers
relating to China presented to this House by command of Her
Majesty, that the interruption in our commercial and friendly
intercourse with that country, and the hostilities which have
since taken place, are mainly to be attributed to the want of
foresight and precaution on the part of Her Majesty's present
advisers, in respect to our relations with China, and especially
to their neglect to furnish the Superintendent at Canton with
powers and instructions calculated to provide against the growing
evils connected with the contraband trade in opium, and adapted
to the novel and difficult situation in which the Superintendent
was placed."
As soon as the question had been put from the Chair the following
Speech was made.
The motion was rejected, after a debate of three nights, by 271
votes to 261.
Mr Speaker,--If the right honourable Baronet, in rising to make
an attack on the Government, was forced to own that he was
unnerved and overpowered by his sense of the importance of the
question with which he had to deal, one who rises to repel that
attack may, without any shame, confess that he feels similar
emotions. And yet I must say that the anxiety, the natural and
becoming anxiety, with which Her Majesty's Ministers have awaited
the judgment of the House on these papers, was not a little
allayed by the terms of the right honourable Baronet's motion,
and has been still more allayed by his speech. It was impossible
for us to doubt either his inclination or his ability to detect
and to expose any fault which we might have committed, and we may
well congratulate ourselves on finding that, after the closest
examination into a long series of transactions, so extensive, so
complicated, and, in some respects, so disastrous, so keen an
assailant could produce only so futile an accusation.
In the first place, Sir, the resolution which the right
honourable Baronet has moved relates entirely to events which
took place before the rupture with the Chinese Government. That
rupture took place in March, 1839. The right honourable Baronet
therefore does not propose to pass any censure on any step which
has been taken by the Government within the last thirteen months;
and it will, I think, be generally admitted, that when he
abstains from censuring the proceedings of the Government, it is
because the most unfriendly scrutiny can find nothing in those
proceedings to censure. We by no means deny that he has a
perfect right to propose a vote expressing disapprobation of what
was done in 1837 or 1838. At the same time, we cannot but be
gratified by learning that he approves of our present policy, and
of the measures which we have taken, since the rupture, for the
vindication of the national honour and for the protection of the
national interests.
It is also to be observed that the right honourable Baronet has
not ventured, either in his motion or in his speech, to charge
Her Majesty's Ministers with any unwise or unjust act, with any
act tending to lower the character of England, or to give cause
of offence to China. The only sins which he imputes to them are
sins of omission. His complaint is merely that they did not
foresee the course which events would take at Canton, and that
consequently they did not send sufficient instructions to the
British resident who was stationed there. Now it is evident that
such an accusation is of all accusations that which requires the
fullest and most distinct proof; for it is of all accusations
that which it is easiest to make and hardest to refute. A man
charged with a culpable act which he has not committed has
comparatively little difficulty in proving his innocence. But
when the charge is merely this, that he has not, in a long and
intricate series of transactions, done all that it would have
been wise to do, how is he to vindicate himself? And the case
which we are considering has this peculiarity, that the envoy to
whom the Ministers are said to have left too large a discretion
was fifteen thousand miles from them. The charge against them
therefore is this, that they did not give such copious and
particular directions as were sufficient, in every possible
emergency, for the guidance of a functionary, who was fifteen
thousand miles off. Now, Sir, I am ready to admit that, if the
papers on our table related to important negotiations with a
neighbouring state, if they related, for example, to a
negotiation carried on with France, my noble friend the Secretary
for Foreign Affairs (Lord Palmerston.) might well have been
blamed for sending instructions so meagre and so vague to our
ambassador at Paris. For my noble friend knows to-night what
passed between our ambassador at Paris and the French Ministers
yesterday; and a messenger despatched to-night from Downing
Street will be at the Embassy in the Faubourg Saint Honore the
day after to-morrow. But that constant and minute control, which
the Foreign Secretary is bound to exercise over diplomatic agents
who are near, becomes an useless and pernicious meddling when
exercised over agents who are separated from him by a voyage of
five months. There are on both sides of the House gentlemen
conversant with the affairs of India. I appeal to those
gentlemen. India is nearer to us than China. India is far
better known to us than China. Yet is it not universally
acknowledged that India can be governed only in India? The
authorities at home point out to a governor the general line of
policy which they wish him to follow; but they do not send him
directions as to the details of his administration. How indeed
is it possible that they should send him such directions?
Consider in what a state the affairs of this country would be if
they were to be conducted according to directions framed by the
ablest statesman residing in Bengal. A despatch goes hence
asking for instructions while London is illuminating for the
peace of Amiens. The instructions arrive when the French army is
encamped at Boulogne, and when the whole island is up in arms to
repel invasion. A despatch is written asking for instructions
when Bonaparte is at Elba. The instructions come when he is at
the Tuilleries. A despatch is written asking for instructions
when he is at the Tuilleries. The instructions come when he is
at St Helena. It would be just as impossible to govern India in
London as to govern England at Calcutta. While letters are
preparing here on the supposition that there is profound peace in
the Carnatic, Hyder is at the gates of Fort St George. While
letters are preparing here on the supposition that trade is
flourishing and that the revenue exceeds the expenditure, the
crops have failed, great agency houses have broken, and the
government is negotiating a loan on hard terms. It is notorious
that the great men who founded and preserved our Indian empire,
Clive and Warren Hastings, treated all particular orders which
they received from home as mere waste paper. Had not those great
men had the sense and spirit so to treat such orders, we should
not now have had an Indian empire. But the case of China is far
stronger. For, though a person who is now writing a despatch to
Fort William in Leadenhall Street or Cannon Row, cannot know what
events have happened in India within the last two months, he may
be very intimately acquainted with the general state of that
country, with its wants, with its resources, with the habits and
temper of the native population, and with the character of every
prince and minister from Nepaul to Tanjore. But what does
anybody here know of China? Even those Europeans who have been
in that empire are almost as ignorant of it as the rest of us.
Everything is covered by a veil, through which a glimpse of what
is within may occasionally be caught, a glimpse just sufficient
to set the imagination at work, and more likely to mislead than
to inform. The right honourable Baronet has told us that an
Englishman at Canton sees about as much of China as a foreigner
who should land at Wapping and proceed no further would see of
England. Certainly the sights and sounds of Wapping would give a
foreigner but a very imperfect notion of our Government, of our
manufactures, of our agriculture, of the state of learning and
the arts among us. And yet the illustration is but a faint one.
For a foreigner may, without seeing even Wapping, without
visiting England at all, study our literature, and may thence
form a vivid and correct idea of our institutions and manners.
But the literature of China affords us no such help. Obstacles
unparalleled in any other country which has books must be
surmounted by the student who is determined to master the Chinese
tongue. To learn to read is the business of half a life. It is
easier to become such a linguist as Sir William Jones was than to
become a good Chinese scholar. You may count upon your fingers
the Europeans whose industry and genius, even when stimulated by
the most fervent religious zeal, has triumphed over the
difficulties of a language without an alphabet. Here then is a
country separated from us physically by half the globe, separated
from us still more effectually by the barriers which the most
jealous of all governments and the hardest of all languages
oppose to the researches of strangers. Is it then reasonable to
blame my noble friend because he has not sent to our envoys in
such a country as this instructions as full and precise as it
would have been his duty to send to a minister at Brussels or at
the Hague? The right honourable Baronet who comes forward as the
accuser on this occasion is really accusing himself. He was a
member of the Government of Lord Grey. He was himself concerned
in framing the first instructions which were given by my noble
friend to our first Superintendent at Canton. For those
instructions the right honourable Baronet frankly admits that he
is himself responsible. Are those instructions then very copious
and minute? Not at all. They merely lay down general
principles. The Resident, for example, is enjoined to respect
national usages, and to avoid whatever may shock the prejudices
of the Chinese; but no orders are given him as to matters of
detail. In 1834 my noble friend quitted the Foreign Office, and
the Duke of Wellington went to it. Did the Duke of Wellington
send out those copious and exact directions with which, according
to the right honourable Baronet, the Government is bound to
furnish its agent in China? No, Sir; the Duke of Wellington,
grown old in the conduct of great affairs, knows better than
anybody that a man of very ordinary ability at Canton is likely
to be a better judge of what ought to be done on an emergency
arising at Canton than the greatest politician at Westminster can
possibly be. His Grace, therefore, like a wise man as he is,
wrote only one letter to the Superintendent, and in that letter
merely referred the Superintendent to the general directions
given by Lord Palmerston. And how, Sir, does the right
honourable Baronet prove that, by persisting in the course which
he himself took when in office, and which the Duke of Wellington
took when in office, Her Majesty's present advisers have brought
on that rupture which we all deplore? He has read us, from the
voluminous papers which are on the table, much which has but a
very remote connection with the question. He has said much about
things which happened before the present Ministry existed, and
much about things which have happened at Canton since the
rupture; but very little that is relevant to the issue raised by
the resolution which he has himself proposed. That issue is
simply this, whether the mismanagement of the present Ministry
produced the rupture. I listened to his long and able speech
with the greatest attention, and did my best to separate that
part which had any relation to his motion from a great mass of
extraneous matter. If my analysis be correct, the charge which
he brings against the Government consists of four articles.
The first article is, that the Government omitted to alter that
part of the original instructions which directed the
Superintendent to reside at Canton.
The second article is, that the Government omitted to alter that
part of the original instructions which directed the
Superintendent to communicate directly with the representatives
of the Emperor.
The third article is, that the Government omitted to follow the
advice of the Duke of Wellington, who had left at the Foreign
Office a memorandum recommending that a British ship of war
should be stationed in the China sea.
The fourth article is, that the Government omitted to authorise
and empower the Superintendent to put down the contraband trade
carried on by British subjects with China.
Such, Sir, are the counts of this indictment. Of these counts,
the fourth is the only one which will require a lengthened
defence. The first three may be disposed of in very few words.
As to the first, the answer is simple. It is true that the
Government did not revoke that part of the instructions which
directed the Superintendent to reside at Canton; and it is true
that this part of the instructions did at one time cause a
dispute between the Superintendent and the Chinese authorities.
But it is equally true that this dispute was accommodated early
in 1837; that the Chinese Government furnished the Superintendent
with a passport authorising him to reside at Canton; that, during
the two years which preceded the rupture, the Chinese Government
made no objection to his residing at Canton; and that there is
not in all this huge blue book one word indicating that the
rupture was caused, directly or indirectly, by his residing at
Canton. On the first count, therefore, I am confident that the
verdict must be, Not Guilty.
To the second count we have a similar answer. It is true that
there was a dispute with the authorities of Canton about the mode
of communication. But it is equally true that this dispute was
settled by a compromise. The Chinese made a concession as to the
channel of communication. The Superintendent made a concession
as to the form of communication. The question had been thus set
at rest before the rupture, and had absolutely nothing to do with
the rupture.
As to the third charge, I must tell the right honourable Baronet
that he has altogether misapprehended that memorandum which he so
confidently cites. The Duke of Wellington did not advise the
Government to station a ship of war constantly in the China seas.
The Duke, writing in 1835, at a time when the regular course of
the trade had been interrupted, recommended that a ship of war
should be stationed near Canton, "till the trade should take its
regular peaceable course." Those are His Grace's own words. Do
they not imply that, when the trade had again taken its regular
peaceable course, it might be right to remove the ship of war?
Well, Sir, the trade, after that memorandum was written, did
resume its regular peaceable course: that the right honourable
Baronet himself will admit; for it is part of his own case that
Sir George Robinson had succeeded in restoring quiet and
security. The third charge then is simply this, that the
Ministers did not do in a time of perfect tranquillity what the
Duke of Wellington thought that it would have been right to do in
a time of trouble.
And now, Sir, I come to the fourth charge, the only real charge;
for the other three are so futile that I hardly understand how
the right honourable Baronet should have ventured to bring them
forward. The fourth charge is, that the Ministers omitted to
send to the Superintendent orders and powers to suppress the
contraband trade, and that this omission was the cause of the
rupture.
Now, Sir, let me ask whether it was not notorious, when the right
honourable Baronet was in office, that British subjects carried
on an extensive contraband trade with China? Did the right
honourable Baronet and his colleagues instruct the Superintendent
to put down that trade? Never. That trade went on while the
Duke of Wellington was at the Foreign Office. Did the Duke of
Wellington instruct the Superintendent to put down that trade?
No, Sir, never. Are then the followers of the right honourable
Baronet, are the followers of the Duke of Wellington, prepared to
pass a vote of censure on us for following the example of the
right honourable Baronet and of the Duke of Wellington? But I am
understating my case. Since the present Ministers came into
office, the reasons against sending out such instructions were
much stronger than when the right honourable Baronet was in
office, or when the Duke of Wellington was in office. Down to
the month of May 1838, my noble friend had good grounds for
believing that the Chinese Government was about to legalise the
trade in opium. It is by no means easy to follow the windings of
Chinese politics. But, it is certain that about four years ago
the whole question was taken into serious consideration at Pekin.
The attention of the Emperor was called to the undoubted fact,
that the law which forbade the trade in opium was a dead letter.
That law had been intended to guard against two evils, which the
Chinese legislators seem to have regarded with equal horror, the
importation of a noxious drug, and the exportation of the
precious metals. It was found, however, that as many pounds of
opium came in, and that as many pounds of silver went out, as if
there had been no such law. The only effect of the prohibition
was that the people learned to think lightly of imperial edicts,
and that no part of the great sums expended in the purchase of
the forbidden luxury came into the imperial treasury. These
considerations were set forth in a most luminous and judicious
state paper, drawn by Tang Tzee, President of the Sacrificial
Offices. I am sorry to hear that this enlightened Minister has
been turned out of office on account of his liberality: for to
be turned out of office is, I apprehend, a much more serious
misfortune in China than in England. Tang Tzee argued that it
was unwise to attempt to exclude opium, for that, while millions
desired to have it, no law would keep it out, and that the manner
in which it had long been brought in had produced an injurious
effect both on the revenues of the state and on the morals of the
people. Opposed to Tang Tzee was Tchu Sing, a statesman of a
very different class, of a class which, I am sorry to say, is not
confined to China. Tchu Sing appears to be one of those staunch
conservatives who, when they find that a law is inefficient
because it is too severe, imagine that they can make it efficient
by making it more severe still. His historical knowledge is much
on a par with his legislative wisdom. He seems to have paid
particular attention to the rise and progress of our Indian
Empire, and he informs his imperial master that opium is the
weapon by which England effects her conquests. She had, it
seems, persuaded the people of Hindostan to smoke and swallow
this besotting drug, till they became so feeble in body and mind,
that they were subjugated without difficulty. Some time appears
to have elapsed before the Emperor made up his mind on the point
in dispute between Tang Tzee and Tchu Sing. Our Superintendent,
Captain Elliot, was of opinion that the decision would be in
favour of the rational view taken by Tang Tzee; and such, as I
can myself attest, was, during part of the year 1837, the opinion
of the whole mercantile community of Calcutta. Indeed, it was
expected that every ship which arrived in the Hoogley from Canton
would bring the news that the opium trade had been declared
legal. Nor was it known in London till May 1838, that the
arguments of Tchu Sing had prevailed. Surely, Sir, it would have
been most absurd to order Captain Elliot to suppress this trade
at a time when everybody expected that it would soon cease to be
contraband. The right honourable Baronet must, I think, himself
admit that, till the month of May 1838, the Government here
omitted nothing that ought to have been done.
The question before us is therefore reduced to very narrow
limits. It is merely this: Ought my noble friend, in May 1838,
to have sent out a despatch commanding and empowering Captain
Elliot to put down the opium trade? I do not think that it would
have been right or wise to send out such a despatch. Consider,
Sir, with what powers it would have been necessary to arm the
Superintendent. He must have been authorised to arrest, to
confine, to send across the sea any British subject whom he might
believe to have been concerned in introducing opium into China.
I do not deny that, under the Act of Parliament, the Government
might have invested him with this dictatorship. But I do say
that the Government ought not lightly to invest any man with such
a dictatorship, and, that if, in consequence of directions sent
out by the Government, numerous subjects of Her Majesty had been
taken into custody and shipped off to Bengal or to England
without being permitted to wind up their affairs, this House
would in all probability have called the Ministers to a strict
account. Nor do I believe that by sending such directions the
Government would have averted the rupture which has taken place.
I will go further. I believe that, if such directions had been
sent, we should now have been, as we are, at war with China; and
that we should have been at war in circumstances singularly
dishonourable and disastrous.
For, Sir, suppose that the Superintendent had been authorised and
commanded by the Government to put forth an order prohibiting
British subjects from trading in opium; suppose that he had put
forth such an order; how was he to enforce it? The right
honourable Baronet has had too much experience of public affairs
to imagine that a lucrative trade will be suppressed by a sheet
of paper and a seal. In England we have a preventive service
which costs us half a million a year. We employ more than fifty
cruisers to guard our coasts. We have six thousand effective men
whose business is to intercept smugglers. And yet everybody
knows that every article which is much desired, which is easily
concealed, and which is heavily taxed, is smuggled into our
island to a great extent. The quantity of brandy which comes in
without paying duty is known to be not less than six hundred
thousand gallons a year. Some people think that the quantity of
tobacco which is imported clandestinely is as great as the
quantity which goes through the custom-houses. Be this as it
may, there is no doubt that the illicit importation is enormous.
It has been proved before a Committee of this House that not less
than four millions of pounds of tobacco have lately been smuggled
into Ireland. And all this, observe, has been done in spite of
the most efficient preventive service that I believe ever existed
in the world. Consider too that the price of an ounce of opium
is far, very far higher than the price of a pound of tobacco.
Knowing this, knowing that the whole power of King, Lords, and
Commons cannot here put a stop to a traffic less easy, and less
profitable than the traffic in opium, can you believe that an
order prohibiting the traffic in opium would have been readily
obeyed? Remember by what powerful motives both the buyer and the
seller would have been impelled to deal with each other. The
buyer would have been driven to the seller by something little
short of torture, by a physical craving as fierce and impatient
as any to which our race is subject. For, when stimulants of
this sort have been long used, they are desired with a rage which
resembles the rage of hunger. The seller would have been driven
to the buyer by the hope of vast and rapid gain. And do you
imagine that the intense appetite on one side for what had become
a necessary of life, and on the other for riches, would have been
appeased by a few lines signed Charles Elliot? The very utmost
effect which it is possible to believe that such an order would
have produced would have been this, that the opium trade would
have left Canton, where the dealers were under the eye of the
Superintendent, and where they would have run some risk of being
punished by him, and would have spread itself along the coast.
If we know anything about the Chinese Government, we know this,
that its coastguard is neither trusty nor efficient; and we know
that a coastguard as trusty and efficient as our own would not be
able to cut off communication between the merchant longing for
silver and the smoker longing for his pipe. Whole fleets of
vessels would have managed to land their cargoes along the shore.
Conflicts would have arisen between our countrymen and the local
magistrates, who would not, like the authorities of Canton, have
had some knowledge of European habits and feelings. The mere
malum prohibitum would, as usual, have produced the mala in se.
The unlawful traffic would inevitably have led to a crowd of
acts, not only unlawful, but immoral. The smuggler would, by the
almost irresistible force of circumstances, have been turned into
a pirate. We know that, even at Canton, where the smugglers
stand in some awe of the authority of the Superintendent and of
the opinion of an English society which contains many respectable
persons, the illicit trade has caused many brawls and outrages.
What, then, was to be expected when every captain of a ship laden
with opium would have been the sole judge of his own conduct? It
is easy to guess what would have happened. A boat is sent ashore
to fill the water-casks and to buy fresh provisions. The
provisions are refused. The sailors take them by force. Then a
well is poisoned. Two or three of the ship's company die in
agonies. The crew in a fury land, shoot and stab every man whom
they meet, and sack and burn a village. Is this improbable?
Have not similar causes repeatedly produced similar effects? Do
we not know that the jealous vigilance with which Spain excluded
the ships of other nations from her Transatlantic possessions
turned men who would otherwise have been honest merchant
adventurers into buccaneers? The same causes which raised up one
race of buccaneers in the Gulf of Mexico would soon have raised
up another in the China Sea. And can we doubt what would in that
case have been the conduct of the Chinese authorities at Canton?
We see that Commissioner Lin has arrested and confined men of
spotless character, men whom he had not the slightest reason to
suspect of being engaged in any illicit commerce. He did so on
the ground that some of their countrymen had violated the revenue
laws of China. How then would he have acted if he had learned
that the red-headed devils had not merely been selling opium, but
had been fighting, plundering, slaying, burning? Would he not
have put forth a proclamation in his most vituperative style,
setting forth that the Outside Barbarians had undertaken to stop
the contraband trade, but that they had been found deceivers,
that the Superintendent's edict was a mere pretence, that there
was more smuggling than ever, that to the smuggling had been
added robbery and murder, and that therefore he should detain all
men of the guilty race as hostages till reparation should be
made? I say, therefore, that, if the Ministers had done that
which the right honourable Baronet blames them for not doing, we
should only have reached by a worse way the point at which we now
are.
I have now, Sir, gone through the four heads of the charge
brought against the Government; and I say with confidence that
the interruption of our friendly relations with China cannot
justly be imputed to any one of the omissions mentioned by the
right honourable Baronet. In truth, if I could feel assured that
no gentleman would vote for the motion without attentively
reading it, and considering whether the proposition which it
affirms has been made out, I should have no uneasiness as to the
result of this debate. But I know that no member weighs the
words of a resolution for which he is asked to vote, as he would
weigh the words of an affidavit which he was asked to swear. And
I am aware that some persons, for whose humanity and honesty I
entertain the greatest respect, are inclined to divide with the
right honourable Baronet, not because they think that he has
proved his case, but because they have taken up a notion that we
are making war for the purpose of forcing the Government of China
to admit opium into that country, and that, therefore, we richly
deserve to be censured. Certainly, Sir, if we had been guilty of
such absurdity and such atrocity as those gentlemen impute to us,
we should deserve not only censure but condign punishment. But
the imputation is altogether unfounded. Our course was clear.
We may doubt indeed whether the Emperor of China judged well in
listening to Tchu Sing and disgracing Tang Tzee. We may doubt
whether it be a wise policy to exclude altogether from any
country a drug which is often fatally abused, but which to those
who use it rightly is one of the most precious boons vouchsafed
by Providence to man, powerful to assuage pain, to soothe
irritation, and to restore health. We may doubt whether it be a
wise policy to make laws for the purpose of preventing the
precious metals from being exported in the natural course of
trade. We have learned from all history, and from our own
experience, that revenue cutters, custom-house officers,
informers, will never keep out of any country foreign luxuries of
small bulk for which consumers are willing to pay high prices,
and will never prevent gold and silver from going abroad in
exchange for such luxuries. We cannot believe that what England
with her skilfully organised fiscal system and her gigantic
marine, has never been able to effect, will be accomplished by
the junks which are at the command of the mandarins of China.
But, whatever our opinion on these points may be, we are
perfectly aware that they are points which it belongs not to us
but to the Emperor of China to decide. He had a perfect right to
keep out opium and to keep in silver, if he could do so by means
consistent with morality and public law. If his officers seized
a chest of the forbidden drug, we were not entitled to complain;
nor did we complain. But when, finding that they could not
suppress the contraband trade by just means, they resorted to
means flagrantly unjust, when they imprisoned our innocent
countrymen, when they insulted our Sovereign in the person of her
representative, then it became our duty to demand satisfaction.
Whether the opium trade be a pernicious trade is not the
question. Take a parallel case: take the most execrable crime
that ever was called a trade, the African slave trade. You will
hardly say that a contraband trade in opium is more immoral than
a contraband trade in negroes. We prohibited slave-trading: we
made it felony; we made it piracy; we invited foreign powers to
join with us in putting it down; to some foreign powers we paid
large sums in order to obtain their co-operation; we employed our
naval force to intercept the kidnappers; and yet it is notorious
that, in spite of all our exertions and sacrifices, great numbers
of slaves were, even as late as ten or twelve years ago,
introduced from Madagascar into our own island of Mauritius.
Assuredly it was our right, it was our duty, to guard the coasts
of that island strictly, to stop slave ships, to bring the buyers
and sellers to punishment. But suppose, Sir, that a ship under
French colours was seen skulking near the island, that the
Governor was fully satisfied from her build, her rigging, and her
movements, that she was a slaver, and was only waiting for the
night to put on shore the wretches who were in her hold. Suppose
that, not having a sufficient naval force to seize this vessel,
he were to arrest thirty or forty French merchants, most of whom
had never been suspected of slave-trading, and were to lock them
up. Suppose that he were to lay violent hands on the French
consul. Suppose that the Governor were to threaten to starve his
prisoners to death unless they produced the proprietor of the
slaver. Would not the French Government in such a case have a
right to demand reparation? And, if we refused reparation, would
not the French Government have a right to exact reparation by
arms? And would it be enough for us to say, "This is a wicked
trade, an inhuman trade. Think of the misery of the poor
creatures who are torn from their homes. Think of the horrors of
the middle passage. Will you make war in order to force us to
admit slaves into our colonies?" Surely the answer of the French
would be, "We are not making war in order to force you to admit
slaves into the Mauritius. By all means keep them out. By all
means punish every man, French or English, whom you can convict
of bringing them in. What we complain of is that you have
confounded the innocent with the guilty, and that you have acted
towards the representative of our government in a manner
inconsistent with the law of nations. Do not, in your zeal for
one great principle, trample on all the other great principles of
morality." Just such are the grounds on which Her Majesty has
demanded reparation from China. And was it not time? See, Sir,
see how rapidly injury has followed injury. The Imperial
Commissioner, emboldened by the facility with which he had
perpetrated the first outrage, and utterly ignorant of the
relative position of his country and ours in the scale of power
and civilisation, has risen in his requisitions. He began by
confiscating property. His next demand was for innocent blood.
A Chinese had been slain. Careful inquiry was made; but it was
impossible to ascertain who was the slayer, or even to what
nation the slayer belonged. No matter. It was notified to the
Superintendent that some subject of the Queen, innocent or
guilty, must be delivered up to suffer death. The Superintendent
refused to comply. Then our countrymen at Canton were seized.
Those who were at Macao were driven thence: not men alone, but
women with child, babies at the breast. The fugitives begged in
vain for a morsel of bread. Our Lascars, people of a different
colour from ours, but still our fellow-subjects, were flung into
the sea. An English gentleman was barbarously mutilated. And
was this to be borne? I am far from thinking that we ought, in
our dealings with such a people as the Chinese, to be litigious
on points of etiquette. The place of our country among the
nations of the world is not so mean or so ill ascertained that we
need resent mere impertinence, which is the effect of a very
pitiable ignorance. Conscious of superior power, we can bear to
hear our Sovereign described as a tributary of the Celestial
Empire. Conscious of superior knowledge we can bear to hear
ourselves described as savages destitute of every useful art.
When our ambassadors were required to perform a prostration,
which in Europe would have been considered as degrading, we were
rather amused than irritated. It would have been unworthy of us
to have recourse to arms on account of an uncivil phrase, or of a
dispute about a ceremony. But this is not a question of phrases
and ceremonies. The liberties and lives of Englishmen are at
stake: and it is fit that all nations, civilised and
uncivilised, should know that, wherever the Englishman may
wander, he is followed by the eye and guarded by the power of
England.
I was much touched, and so, I dare say, were many other
gentlemen, by a passage in one of Captain Elliot's despatches. I
mean that passage in which he describes his arrival at the
factory in the moment of extreme danger. As soon as he landed he
was surrounded by his countrymen, all in an agony of distress and
despair. The first thing which he did was to order the British
flag to be brought from his boat and planted in the balcony. The
sight immediately revived the hearts of those who had a minute
before given themselves up for lost. It was natural that they
should look up with hope and confidence to that victorious flag.
For it reminded them that they belonged to a country unaccustomed
to defeat, to submission, or to shame; to a country which had
exacted such reparation for the wrongs of her children as had
made the ears of all who heard of it to tingle; to a country
which had made the Dey of Algiers humble himself to the dust
before her insulted Consul; to a country which had avenged the
victims of the Black Hole on the Field of Plassey; to a country
which had not degenerated since the Great Protector vowed that he
would make the name of Englishman as much respected as ever had
been the name of Roman citizen. They knew that, surrounded as
they were by enemies, and separated by great oceans and
continents from all help, not a hair of their heads would be
harmed with impunity. On this part of the subject I believe that
both the great contending parties in this House are agreed. I
did not detect in the speech of the right honourable Baronet,--
and I listened to that speech with the closest attention,--one
word indicating that he is less disposed than we to insist on
full satisfaction for the great wrong which has been done. I
cannot believe that the House will pass a vote of censure so
grossly unjust as that which he has moved. But I rejoice to
think that, whether we are censured or not, the national honour
will still be safe. There may be a change of men; but, as
respects China, there will be no change of measures. I have
done; and have only to express my fervent hope that this most
righteous quarrel may be prosecuted to a speedy and triumphant
close; that the brave men to whom is intrusted the task of
exacting reparation may perform their duty in such a manner as to
spread, throughout regions in which the English name is hardly
known, the fame not only of English skill and valour, but of
English mercy and moderation; and that the overruling care of
that gracious Providence which has so often brought good out of
evil may make the war to which we have been forced the means of
establishing a durable peace, beneficial alike to the victors and
the vanquished.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 5TH OF FEBRUARY
1841.
On the twenty-ninth of January 1841, Mr Serjeant Talfourd
obtained leave to bring in a bill to amend the law of copyright.
The object of this bill was to extend the term of copyright in a
book to sixty years, reckoned from the death of the writer.
On the fifth of February Mr Serjeant Talfourd moved that the bill
should be read a second time. In reply to him the following
Speech was made. The bill was rejected by 45 votes to 38.
Though, Sir, it is in some sense agreeable to approach a subject
with which political animosities have nothing to do, I offer
myself to your notice with some reluctance. It is painful to me
to take a course which may possibly be misunderstood or
misrepresented as unfriendly to the interests of literature and
literary men. It is painful to me, I will add, to oppose my
honourable and learned friend on a question which he has taken up
from the purest motives, and which he regards with a parental
interest. These feelings have hitherto kept me silent when the
law of copyright has been under discussion. But as I am, on full
consideration, satisfied that the measure before us will, if
adopted, inflict grievous injury on the public, without
conferring any compensating advantage on men of letters, I think
it my duty to avow that opinion and to defend it.
The first thing to be done, Sir, is to settle on what principles
the question is to be argued. Are we free to legislate for the
public good, or are we not? Is this a question of expediency, or
is it a question of right? Many of those who have written and
petitioned against the existing state of things treat the
question as one of right. The law of nature, according to them,
gives to every man a sacred and indefeasible property in his own
ideas, in the fruits of his own reason and imagination. The
legislature has indeed the power to take away this property, just
as it has the power to pass an act of attainder for cutting off
an innocent man's head without a trial. But, as such an act of
attainder would be legal murder, so would an act invading the
right of an author to his copy be, according to these gentlemen,
legal robbery.
Now, Sir, if this be so, let justice be done, cost what it may.
I am not prepared, like my honourable and learned friend, to
agree to a compromise between right and expediency, and to commit
an injustice for the public convenience. But I must say, that
his theory soars far beyond the reach of my faculties. It is not
necessary to go, on the present occasion, into a metaphysical
inquiry about the origin of the right of property; and certainly
nothing but the strongest necessity would lead me to discuss a
subject so likely to be distasteful to the House. I agree, I
own, with Paley in thinking that property is the creature of the
law, and that the law which creates property can be defended only
on this ground, that it is a law beneficial to mankind. But it
is unnecessary to debate that point. For, even if I believed in
a natural right of property, independent of utility and anterior
to legislation, I should still deny that this right could survive
the original proprietor. Few, I apprehend, even of those who
have studied in the most mystical and sentimental schools of
moral philosophy, will be disposed to maintain that there is a
natural law of succession older and of higher authority than any
human code. If there be, it is quite certain that we have abuses
to reform much more serious than any connected with the question
of copyright. For this natural law can be only one; and the
modes of succession in the Queen's dominions are twenty. To go
no further than England, land generally descends to the eldest
son. In Kent the sons share and share alike. In many districts
the youngest takes the whole. Formerly a portion of a man's
personal property was secured to his family; and it was only of
the residue that he could dispose by will. Now he can dispose of
the whole by will: but you limited his power, a few years ago,
by enacting that the will should not be valid unless there were
two witnesses. If a man dies intestate, his personal property
generally goes according to the statute of distributions; but
there are local customs which modify that statute. Now which of
all these systems is conformed to the eternal standard of right?
Is it primogeniture, or gavelkind, or borough English? Are wills
jure divino? Are the two witnesses jure divino? Might not the
pars rationabilis of our old law have a fair claim to be regarded
as of celestial institution? Was the statute of distributions
enacted in Heaven long before it was adopted by Parliament? Or
is it to Custom of York, or to Custom of London, that this pre-
eminence belongs? Surely, Sir, even those who hold that there is
a natural right of property must admit that rules prescribing the
manner in which the effects of deceased persons shall be
distributed are purely arbitrary, and originate altogether in the
will of the legislature. If so, Sir, there is no controversy
between my honourable and learned friend and myself as to the
principles on which this question is to be argued. For the
existing law gives an author copyright during his natural life;
nor do I propose to invade that privilege, which I should, on the
contrary, be prepared to defend strenuously against any
assailant. The only point in issue between us is, how long after
an author's death the State shall recognise a copyright in his
representatives and assigns; and it can, I think, hardly be
disputed by any rational man that this is a point which the
legislature is free to determine in the way which may appear to
be most conducive to the general good.
We may now, therefore, I think, descend from these high regions,
where we are in danger of being lost in the clouds, to firm
ground and clear light. Let us look at this question like
legislators, and after fairly balancing conveniences and
inconveniences, pronounce between the existing law of copyright,
and the law now proposed to us. The question of copyright, Sir,
like most questions of civil prudence, is neither black nor
white, but grey. The system of copyright has great advantages
and great disadvantages; and it is our business to ascertain what
these are, and then to make an arrangement under which the
advantages may be as far as possible secured, and the
disadvantages as far as possible excluded. The charge which I
bring against my honourable and learned friend's bill is this,
that it leaves the advantages nearly what they are at present,
and increases the disadvantages at least fourfold.
The advantages arising from a system of copyright are obvious.
It is desirable that we should have a supply of good books; we
cannot have such a supply unless men of letters are liberally
remunerated; and the least objectionable way of remunerating them
is by means of copyright. You cannot depend for literary
instruction and amusement on the leisure of men occupied in the
pursuits of active life. Such men may occasionally produce
compositions of great merit. But you must not look to such men
for works which require deep meditation and long research. Works
of that kind you can expect only from persons who make literature
the business of their lives. Of these persons few will be found
among the rich and the noble. The rich and the noble are not
impelled to intellectual exertion by necessity. They may be
impelled to intellectual exertion by the desire of distinguishing
themselves, or by the desire of benefiting the community. But it
is generally within these walls that they seek to signalise
themselves and to serve their fellow-creatures. Both their
ambition and their public spirit, in a country like this,
naturally take a political turn. It is then on men whose
profession is literature, and whose private means are not ample,
that you must rely for a supply of valuable books. Such men must
be remunerated for their literary labour. And there are only two
ways in which they can be remunerated. One of those ways is
patronage; the other is copyright.
There have been times in which men of letters looked, not to the
public, but to the government, or to a few great men, for the
reward of their exertions. It was thus in the time of Maecenas
and Pollio at Rome, of the Medici at Florence, of Louis the
Fourteenth in France, of Lord Halifax and Lord Oxford in this
country. Now, Sir, I well know that there are cases in which it
is fit and graceful, nay, in which it is a sacred duty to reward
the merits or to relieve the distresses of men of genius by the
exercise of this species of liberality. But these cases are
exceptions. I can conceive no system more fatal to the integrity
and independence of literary men than one under which they should
be taught to look for their daily bread to the favour of
ministers and nobles. I can conceive no system more certain to
turn those minds which are formed by nature to be the blessings
and ornaments of our species into public scandals and pests.
We have, then, only one resource left. We must betake ourselves
to copyright, be the inconveniences of copyright what they may.
Those inconveniences, in truth, are neither few nor small.
Copyright is monopoly, and produces all the effects which the
general voice of mankind attributes to monopoly. My honourable
and learned friend talks very contemptuously of those who are led
away by the theory that monopoly makes things dear. That
monopoly makes things dear is certainly a theory, as all the
great truths which have been established by the experience of all
ages and nations, and which are taken for granted in all
reasonings, may be said to be theories. It is a theory in the
same sense in which it is a theory that day and night follow each
other, that lead is heavier than water, that bread nourishes,
that arsenic poisons, that alcohol intoxicates. If, as my
honourable and learned friend seems to think, the whole world is
in the wrong on this point, if the real effect of monopoly is to
make articles good and cheap, why does he stop short in his
career of change? Why does he limit the operation of so salutary
a principle to sixty years? Why does he consent to anything
short of a perpetuity? He told us that in consenting to anything
short of a perpetuity he was making a compromise between extreme
right and expediency. But if his opinion about monopoly be
correct, extreme right and expediency would coincide. Or rather,
why should we not restore the monopoly of the East India trade to
the East India Company? Why should we not revive all those old
monopolies which, in Elizabeth's reign, galled our fathers so
severely that, maddened by intolerable wrong, they opposed to
their sovereign a resistance before which her haughty spirit
quailed for the first and for the last time? Was it the
cheapness and excellence of commodities that then so violently
stirred the indignation of the English people? I believe, Sir,
that I may with safety take it for granted that the effect of
monopoly generally is to make articles scarce, to make them dear,
and to make them bad. And I may with equal safety challenge my
honourable friend to find out any distinction between copyright
and other privileges of the same kind; any reason why a monopoly
of books should produce an effect directly the reverse of that
which was produced by the East India Company's monopoly of tea,
or by Lord Essex's monopoly of sweet wines. Thus, then, stands
the case. It is good that authors should be remunerated; and the
least exceptionable way of remunerating them is by a monopoly.
Yet monopoly is an evil. For the sake of the good we must submit
to the evil; but the evil ought not to last a day longer than is
necessary for the purpose of securing the good.
Now, I will not affirm that the existing law is perfect, that it
exactly hits the point at which the monopoly ought to cease; but
this I confidently say, that the existing law is very much nearer
that point than the law proposed by my honourable and learned
friend. For consider this; the evil effects of the monopoly are
proportioned to the length of its duration. But the good effects
for the sake of which we bear with the evil effects are by no
means proportioned to the length of its duration. A monopoly of
sixty years produces twice as much evil as a monopoly of thirty
years, and thrice as much evil as a monopoly of twenty years.
But it is by no means the fact that a posthumous monopoly of
sixty years gives to an author thrice as much pleasure and thrice
as strong a motive as a posthumous monopoly of twenty years. On
the contrary, the difference is so small as to be hardly
perceptible. We all know how faintly we are affected by the
prospect of very distant advantages, even when they are
advantages which we may reasonably hope that we shall ourselves
enjoy. But an advantage that is to be enjoyed more than half a
century after we are dead, by somebody, we know not by whom,
perhaps by somebody unborn, by somebody utterly unconnected with
us, is really no motive at all to action. It is very probable
that in the course of some generations land in the unexplored and
unmapped heart of the Australasian continent will be very
valuable. But there is none of us who would lay down five pounds
for a whole province in the heart of the Australasian continent.
We know, that neither we, nor anybody for whom we care, will ever
receive a farthing of rent from such a province. And a man is
very little moved by the thought that in the year 2000 or 2100,
somebody who claims through him will employ more shepherds than
Prince Esterhazy, and will have the finest house and gallery of
pictures at Victoria or Sydney. Now, this is the sort of boon
which my honourable and learned friend holds out to authors.
Considered as a boon to them, it is a mere nullity, but
considered as an impost on the public, it is no nullity, but a
very serious and pernicious reality. I will take an example. Dr
Johnson died fifty-six years ago. If the law were what my
honourable and learned friend wishes to make it, somebody would
now have the monopoly of Dr Johnson's works. Who that somebody
would be it is impossible to say; but we may venture to guess. I
guess, then, that it would have been some bookseller, who was the
assign of another bookseller, who was the grandson of a third
bookseller, who had bought the copyright from Black Frank, the
doctor's servant and residuary legatee, in 1785 or 1786. Now,
would the knowledge that this copyright would exist in 1841 have
been a source of gratification to Johnson? Would it have
stimulated his exertions? Would it have once drawn him out of
his bed before noon? Would it have once cheered him under a fit
of the spleen? Would it have induced him to give us one more
allegory, one more life of a poet, one more imitation of Juvenal?
I firmly believe not. I firmly believe that a hundred years ago,
when he was writing our debates for the Gentleman's Magazine, he
would very much rather have had twopence to buy a plate of shin
of beef at a cook's shop underground. Considered as a reward to
him, the difference between a twenty years' and sixty years' term
of posthumous copyright would have been nothing or next to
nothing. But is the difference nothing to us? I can buy
Rasselas for sixpence; I might have had to give five shillings
for it. I can buy the Dictionary, the entire genuine Dictionary,
for two guineas, perhaps for less; I might have had to give five
or six guineas for it. Do I grudge this to a man like Dr
Johnson? Not at all. Show me that the prospect of this boon
roused him to any vigorous effort, or sustained his spirits under
depressing circumstances, and I am quite willing to pay the price
of such an object, heavy as that price is. But what I do
complain of is that my circumstances are to be worse, and
Johnson's none the better; that I am to give five pounds for what
to him was not worth a farthing.
The principle of copyright is this. It is a tax on readers for
the purpose of giving a bounty to writers. The tax is an
exceedingly bad one; it is a tax on one of the most innocent and
most salutary of human pleasures; and never let us forget, that a
tax on innocent pleasures is a premium on vicious pleasures. I
admit, however, the necessity of giving a bounty to genius and
learning. In order to give such a bounty, I willingly submit
even to this severe and burdensome tax. Nay, I am ready to
increase the tax, if it can be shown that by so doing I should
proportionally increase the bounty. My complaint is, that my
honourable and learned friend doubles, triples, quadruples, the
tax, and makes scarcely any perceptible addition to the bounty.
Why, Sir, what is the additional amount of taxation which would
have been levied on the public for Dr Johnson's works alone, if
my honourable and learned friend's bill had been the law of the
land? I have not data sufficient to form an opinion. But I am
confident that the taxation on his Dictionary alone would have
amounted to many thousands of pounds. In reckoning the whole
additional sum which the holders of his copyrights would have
taken out of the pockets of the public during the last half
century at twenty thousand pounds, I feel satisfied that I very
greatly underrate it. Now, I again say that I think it but fair
that we should pay twenty thousand pounds in consideration of
twenty thousand pounds' worth of pleasure and encouragement
received by Dr Johnson. But I think it very hard that we should
pay twenty thousand pounds for what he would not have valued at
five shillings.
My honourable and learned friend dwells on the claims of the
posterity of great writers. Undoubtedly, Sir, it would be very
pleasing to see a descendant of Shakespeare living in opulence on
the fruits of his great ancestor's genius. A house maintained in
splendour by such a patrimony would be a more interesting and
striking object than Blenheim is to us, or than Strathfieldsaye
will be to our children. But, unhappily, it is scarcely possible
that, under any system, such a thing can come to pass. My
honourable and learned friend does not propose that copyright
shall descend to the eldest son, or shall be bound up by
irrecoverable entail. It is to be merely personal property. It
is therefore highly improbable that it will descend during sixty
years or half that term from parent to child. The chance is that
more people than one will have an interest in it. They will in
all probability sell it and divide the proceeds. The price which
a bookseller will give for it will bear no proportion to the sum
which he will afterwards draw from the public, if his speculation
proves successful. He will give little, if anything, more for a
term of sixty years than for a term of thirty or five and twenty.
The present value of a distant advantage is always small; but
when there is great room to doubt whether a distant advantage
will be any advantage at all, the present value sink to almost
nothing. Such is the inconstancy of the public taste that no
sensible man will venture to pronounce, with confidence, what the
sale of any book published in our days will be in the years
between 1890 and 1900. The whole fashion of thinking and writing
has often undergone a change in a much shorter period than that
to which my honourable and learned friend would extend posthumous
copyright. What would have been considered the best literary
property in the earlier part of Charles the Second's reign? I
imagine Cowley's Poems. Overleap sixty years, and you are in the
generation of which Pope asked, "Who now reads Cowley?" What
works were ever expected with more impatience by the public than
those of Lord Bolingbroke, which appeared, I think, in 1754? In
1814, no bookseller would have thanked you for the copyright of
them all, if you had offered it to him for nothing. What would
Paternoster Row give now for the copyright of Hayley's Triumphs
of Temper, so much admired within the memory of many people still
living? I say, therefore, that, from the very nature of literary
property, it will almost always pass away from an author's
family; and I say, that the price given for it to the family will
bear a very small proportion to the tax which the purchaser, if
his speculation turns out well, will in the course of a long
series of years levy on the public.
If, Sir, I wished to find a strong and perfect illustration of
the effects which I anticipate from long copyright, I should
select,--my honourable and learned friend will be surprised,--I
should select the case of Milton's granddaughter. As often as
this bill has been under discussion, the fate of Milton's
granddaughter has been brought forward by the advocates of
monopoly. My honourable and learned friend has repeatedly told
the story with great eloquence and effect. He has dilated on the
sufferings, on the abject poverty, of this ill-fated woman, the
last of an illustrious race. He tells us that, in the extremity
of her distress, Garrick gave her a benefit, that Johnson wrote a
prologue, and that the public contributed some hundreds of
pounds. Was it fit, he asks, that she should receive, in this
eleemosynary form, a small portion of what was in truth a debt?
Why, he asks, instead of obtaining a pittance from charity, did
she not live in comfort and luxury on the proceeds of the sale of
her ancestor's works? But, Sir, will my honourable and learned
friend tell me that this event, which he has so often and so
pathetically described, was caused by the shortness of the term
of copyright? Why, at that time, the duration of copyright was
longer than even he, at present, proposes to make it. The
monopoly lasted, not sixty years, but for ever. At the time at
which Milton's granddaughter asked charity, Milton's works were
the exclusive property of a bookseller. Within a few months of
the day on which the benefit was given at Garrick's theatre, the
holder of the copyright of Paradise Lost,--I think it was
Tonson,--applied to the Court of Chancery for an injunction
against a bookseller who had published a cheap edition of the
great epic poem, and obtained the injunction. The representation
of Comus was, if I remember rightly, in 1750; the injunction in
1752. Here, then, is a perfect illustration of the effect of
long copyright. Milton's works are the property of a single
publisher. Everybody who wants them must buy them at Tonson's
shop, and at Tonson's price. Whoever attempts to undersell
Tonson is harassed with legal proceedings. Thousands who would
gladly possess a copy of Paradise Lost, must forego that great
enjoyment. And what, in the meantime, is the situation of the
only person for whom we can suppose that the author, protected at
such a cost to the public, was at all interested? She is reduced
to utter destitution. Milton's works are under a monopoly.
Milton's granddaughter is starving. The reader is pillaged; but
the writer's family is not enriched. Society is taxed doubly.
It has to give an exorbitant price for the poems; and it has at
the same time to give alms to the only surviving descendant of
the poet.
But this is not all. I think it right, Sir, to call the
attention of the House to an evil, which is perhaps more to be
apprehended when an author's copyright remains in the hands of
his family, than when it is transferred to booksellers. I
seriously fear that, if such a measure as this should be adopted,
many valuable works will be either totally suppressed or
grievously mutilated. I can prove that this danger is not
chimerical; and I am quite certain that, if the danger be real,
the safeguards which my honourable and learned friend has devised
are altogether nugatory. That the danger is not chimerical may
easily be shown. Most of us, I am sure, have known persons who,
very erroneously as I think, but from the best motives, would not
choose to reprint Fielding's novels, or Gibbon's History of the
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Some gentlemen may perhaps
be of opinion that it would be as well if Tom Jones and Gibbon's
History were never reprinted. I will not, then, dwell on these
or similar cases. I will take cases respecting which it is not
likely that there will be any difference of opinion here; cases,
too, in which the danger of which I now speak is not matter of
supposition, but matter of fact. Take Richardson's novels.
Whatever I may, on the present occasion, think of my honourable
and learned friend's judgment as a legislator, I must always
respect his judgment as a critic. He will, I am sure, say that
Richardson's novels are among the most valuable, among the most
original works in our language. No writings have done more to
raise the fame of English genius in foreign countries. No
writings are more deeply pathetic. No writings, those of
Shakspeare excepted, show more profound knowledge of the human
heart. As to their moral tendency, I can cite the most
respectable testimony. Dr Johnson describes Richardson as one
who had taught the passions to move at the command of virtue. My
dear and honoured friend, Mr Wilberforce, in his celebrated
religious treatise, when speaking of the unchristian tendency of
the fashionable novels of the eighteenth century, distinctly
excepts Richardson from the censure. Another excellent person,
whom I can never mention without respect and kindness, Mrs Hannah
More, often declared in conversation, and has declared in one of
her published poems, that she first learned from the writings of
Richardson those principles of piety by which her life was
guided. I may safely say that books celebrated as works of art
through the whole civilised world, and praised for their moral
tendency by Dr Johnson, by Mr Wilberforce, by Mrs Hannah More,
ought not to be suppressed. Sir, it is my firm belief, that if
the law had been what my honourable and learned friend proposes
to make it, they would have been suppressed. I remember
Richardson's grandson well; he was a clergyman in the city of
London; he was a most upright and excellent man; but he had
conceived a strong prejudice against works of fiction. He
thought all novel-reading not only frivolous but sinful. He
said,--this I state on the authority of one of his clerical
brethren who is now a bishop,--he said that he had never thought
it right to read one of his grandfather's books. Suppose, Sir,
that the law had been what my honourable and learned friend would
make it. Suppose that the copyright of Richardson's novels had
descended, as might well have been the case, to this gentleman.
I firmly believe, that he would have thought it sinful to give
them a wide circulation. I firmly believe, that he would not for
a hundred thousand pounds have deliberately done what he thought
sinful. He would not have reprinted them. And what protection
does my honourable and learned friend give to the public in such
a case? Why, Sir, what he proposes is this: if a book is not
reprinted during five years, any person who wishes to reprint it
may give notice in the London Gazette: the advertisement must be
repeated three times: a year must elapse; and then, if the
proprietor of the copyright does not put forth a new edition, he
loses his exclusive privilege. Now, what protection is this to
the public? What is a new edition? Does the law define the
number of copies that make an edition? Does it limit the price
of a copy? Are twelve copies on large paper, charged at thirty
guineas each, an edition? It has been usual, when monopolies
have been granted, to prescribe numbers and to limit prices. But
I did not find the my honourable and learned friend proposes to
do so in the present case. And, without some such provision, the
security which he offers is manifestly illusory. It is my
conviction that, under such a system as that which he recommends
to us, a copy of Clarissa would have been as rare as an Aldus or
a Caxton.
I will give another instance. One of the most instructive,
interesting, and delightful books in our language is Boswell's
Life of Johnson. Now it is well known that Boswell's eldest son
considered this book, considered the whole relation of Boswell to
Johnson, as a blot in the escutcheon of the family. He thought,
not perhaps altogether without reason, that his father had
exhibited himself in a ludicrous and degrading light. And thus
he became so sore and irritable that at last he could not bear to
hear the Life of Johnson mentioned. Suppose that the law had
been what my honourable and learned friend wishes to make it.
Suppose that the copyright of Boswell's Life of Johnson had
belonged, as it well might, during sixty years, to Boswell's
eldest son. What would have been the consequence? An
unadulterated copy of the finest biographical work in the world
would have been as scarce as the first edition of Camden's
Britannia.
These are strong cases. I have shown you that, if the law had
been what you are now going to make it, the finest prose work of
fiction in the language, the finest biographical work in the
language, would very probably have been suppressed. But I have
stated my case weakly. The books which I have mentioned are
singularly inoffensive books, books not touching on any of those
questions which drive even wise men beyond the bounds of wisdom.
There are books of a very different kind, books which are the
rallying points of great political and religious parties. What
is likely to happen if the copyright of one of the these books
should by descent or transfer come into the possession of some
hostile zealot? I will take a single instance. It is only fifty
years since John Wesley died; and all his works, if the law had
been what my honourable and learned friend wishes to make it,
would now have been the property of some person or other. The
sect founded by Wesley is the most numerous, the wealthiest, the
most powerful, the most zealous of sects. In every parliamentary
election it is a matter of the greatest importance to obtain the
support of the Wesleyan Methodists. Their numerical strength is
reckoned by hundreds of thousands. They hold the memory of their
founder in the greatest reverence; and not without reason, for he
was unquestionably a great and a good man. To his authority they
constantly appeal. His works are in their eyes of the highest
value. His doctrinal writings they regard as containing the best
system of theology ever deduced from Scripture. His journals,
interesting even to the common reader, are peculiarly interesting
to the Methodist: for they contain the whole history of that
singular polity which, weak and despised in its beginning, is
now, after the lapse of a century, so strong, so flourishing, and
so formidable. The hymns to which he gave his imprimatur are a
most important part of the public worship of his followers. Now,
suppose that the copyright of these works should belong to some
person who holds the memory of Wesley and the doctrines and
discipline of the Methodists in abhorrence. There are many such
persons. The Ecclesiastical Courts are at this very time sitting
on the case of a clergyman of the Established Church who refused
Christian burial to a child baptized by a Methodist preacher. I
took up the other day a work which is considered as among the
most respectable organs of a large and growing party in the
Church of England, and there I saw John Wesley designated as a
forsworn priest. Suppose that the works of Wesley were
suppressed. Why, Sir, such a grievance would be enough to shake
the foundations of Government. Let gentlemen who are attached to
the Church reflect for a moment what their feelings would be if
the Book of Common Prayer were not to be reprinted for thirty or
forty years, if the price of a Book of Common Prayer were run up
to five or ten guineas. And then let them determine whether they
will pass a law under which it is possible, under which it is
probable, that so intolerable a wrong may be done to some sect
consisting perhaps of half a million of persons.
I am so sensible, Sir, of the kindness with which the House has
listened to me, that I will not detain you longer. I will only
say this, that if the measure before us should pass, and should
produce one-tenth part of the evil which it is calculated to
produce, and which I fully expect it to produce, there will soon
be a remedy, though of a very objectionable kind. Just as the
absurd acts which prohibited the sale of game were virtually
repealed by the poacher, just as many absurd revenue acts have
been virtually repealed by the smuggler, so will this law be
virtually repealed by piratical booksellers. At present the
holder of copyright has the public feeling on his side. Those
who invade copyright are regarded as knaves who take the bread
out of the mouths of deserving men. Everybody is well pleased to
see them restrained by the law, and compelled to refund their
ill-gotten gains. No tradesman of good repute will have anything
to do with such disgraceful transactions. Pass this law: and
that feeling is at an end. Men very different from the present
race of piratical booksellers will soon infringe this intolerable
monopoly. Great masses of capital will be constantly employed in
the violation of the law. Every art will be employed to evade
legal pursuit; and the whole nation will be in the plot. On
which side indeed should the public sympathy be when the question
is whether some book as popular as Robinson Crusoe, or the
Pilgrim's Progress, shall be in every cottage, or whether it
shall be confined to the libraries of the rich for the advantage
of the great-grandson of a bookseller who, a hundred years
before, drove a hard bargain for the copyright with the author
when in great distress? Remember too that, when once it ceases
to be considered as wrong and discreditable to invade literary
property, no person can say where the invasion will stop. The
public seldom makes nice distinctions. The wholesome copyright
which now exists will share in the disgrace and danger of the new
copyright which you are about to create. And you will find that,
in attempting to impose unreasonable restraints on the reprinting
of the works of the dead, you have, to a great extent, annulled
those restraints which now prevent men from pillaging and
defrauding the living. If I saw, Sir, any probability that this
bill could be so amended in the Committee that my objections
might be removed, I would not divide the House in this stage.
But I am so fully convinced that no alteration which would not
seem insupportable to my honourable and learned friend, could
render his measure supportable to me, that I must move, though
with regret, that this bill be read a second time this day six
months.
A SPEECH DELIVERED IN A COMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE
6TH OF APRIL 1842.
On the third of March 1842, Lord Mahon obtained permission to
bring in a bill to amend the Law of Copyright. This bill
extended the term of Copyright in a book to twenty-five years,
reckoned from the death of the author.
On the sixth of April the House went into Committee on the bill,
and Mr Greene took the Chair. Several divisions took place, of
which the result was that the plan suggested in the following
Speech was, with some modifications, adopted.
Mr Greene,--I have been amused and gratified by the remarks which
my noble friend (Lord Mahon.) has made on the arguments by which
I prevailed on the last House of Commons to reject the bill
introduced by a very able and accomplished man, Mr Serjeant
Talfourd. My noble friend has done me a high and rare honour.
For this is, I believe, the first occasion on which a speech made
in one Parliament has been answered in another. I should not
find it difficult to vindicate the soundness of the reasons which
I formerly urged, to set them in a clearer light, and to fortify
them by additional facts. But it seems to me that we had better
discuss the bill which is now on our table than the bill which
was there fourteen months ago. Glad I am to find that there is a
very wide difference between the two bills, and that my noble
friend, though he has tried to refute my arguments, has acted as
if he had been convinced by them. I objected to the term of
sixty years as far too long. My noble friend has cut that term
down to twenty-five years. I warned the House that, under the
provisions of Mr Serjeant Talfourd's bill, valuable works might
not improbably be suppressed by the representatives of authors.
My noble friend has prepared a clause which, as he thinks, will
guard against that danger. I will not, therefore, waste the time
of the Committee by debating points which he has conceded, but
will proceed at once to the proper business of this evening.
Sir, I have no objection to the principle of my noble friend's
bill. Indeed, I had no objection to the principle of the bill of
last year. I have long thought that the term of copyright ought
to be extended. When Mr Serjeant Talfourd moved for leave to
bring in his bill, I did not oppose the motion. Indeed I meant
to vote for the second reading, and to reserve what I had to say
for the Committee. But the learned Serjeant left me no choice.
He, in strong language, begged that nobody who was disposed to
reduce the term of sixty years would divide with him. "Do not,"
he said, "give me your support, if all that you mean to grant to
men of letters is a miserable addition of fourteen or fifteen
years to the present term. I do not wish for such support. I
despise it." Not wishing to obtrude on the learned Serjeant a
support which he despised, I had no course left but to take the
sense of the House on the second reading. The circumstances are
now different. My noble friend's bill is not at present a good
bill; but it may be improved into a very good bill; nor will he,
I am persuaded, withdraw it if it should be so improved. He and
I have the same object in view; but we differ as to the best mode
of attaining that object. We are equally desirous to extend the
protection now enjoyed by writers. In what way it may be
extended with most benefit to them and with least inconvenience
to the public, is the question.
The present state of the law is this. The author of a work has a
certain copyright in that work for a term of twenty-eight years.
If he should live more than twenty-eight years after the
publication of the work, he retains the copyright to the end of
his life.
My noble friend does not propose to make any addition to the term
of twenty-eight years. But he proposes that the copyright shall
last twenty-five years after the author's death. Thus my noble
friend makes no addition to that term which is certain, but makes
a very large addition to that term which is uncertain.
My plan is different. I would made no addition to the uncertain
term; but I would make a large addition to the certain term. I
propose to add fourteen years to the twenty-eight years which the
law now allows to an author. His copyright will, in this way,
last till his death, or till the expiration of forty-two years,
whichever shall first happen. And I think that I shall be able
to prove to the satisfaction of the Committee that my plan will
be more beneficial to literature and to literary men than the
plan of my noble friend.
It must surely, Sir, be admitted that the protection which we
give to books ought to be distributed as evenly as possible, that
every book should have a fair share of that protection, and no
book more than a fair share. It would evidently be absurd to put
tickets into a wheel, with different numbers marked upon them,
and to make writers draw, one a term of twenty-eight years,
another a term of fifty, another a term of ninety. And yet this
sort of lottery is what my noble friend proposes to establish. I
know that we cannot altogether exclude chance. You have two
terms of copyright; one certain, the other uncertain; and we
cannot, I admit, get rid of the uncertain term. It is proper, no
doubt, that an author's copyright should last during his life.
But, Sir, though we cannot altogether exclude chance, we can very
much diminish the share which chance must have in distributing
the recompense which we wish to give to genius and learning. By
every addition which we make to the certain term we diminish the
influence of chance; by every addition which we make to the
uncertain term we increase the influence of chance. I shall make
myself best understood by putting cases. Take two eminent female
writers, who died within our own memory, Madame D'Arblay and Miss
Austen. As the law now stands, Miss Austen's charming novels
would have only from twenty-eight to thirty-three years of
copyright. For that extraordinary woman died young: she died
before her genius was fully appreciated by the world. Madame
D'Arblay outlived the whole generation to which she belonged.
The copyright of her celebrated novel, Evelina, lasted, under the
present law, sixty-two years. Surely this inequality is
sufficiently great--sixty-two years of copyright for Evelina,
only twenty-eight for Persuasion. But to my noble friend this
inequality seems not great enough. He proposes to add twenty-
five years to Madame D'Arblay's term, and not a single day to
Miss Austen's term. He would give to Persuasion a copyright of
only twenty-eight years, as at present, and to Evelina a
copyright more than three times as long, a copyright of eighty-
seven years. Now, is this reasonable? See, on the other hand,
the operation of my plan. I make no addition at all to Madame
D'Arblay's term of sixty-two years, which is, in my opinion,
quite long enough; but I extend Miss Austen's term to forty-two
years, which is, in my opinion, not too much. You see, Sir, that
at present chance has too much sway in this matter: that at
present the protection which the State gives to letters is very
unequally given. You see that if my noble friend's plan be
adopted, more will be left to chance than under the present
system, and you will have such inequalities as are unknown under
the present system. You see also that, under the system which I
recommend, we shall have, not perfect certainty, not perfect
equality, but much less uncertainty and inequality than at
present.
But this is not all. My noble friend's plan is not merely to
institute a lottery in which some writers will draw prizes and
some will draw blanks. It is much worse than this. His lottery
is so contrived that, in the vast majority of cases, the blanks
will fall to the best books, and the prizes to books of inferior
merit.
Take Shakspeare. My noble friend gives a longer protection than
I should give to Love's Labour's Lost, and Pericles, Prince of
Tyre; but he gives a shorter protection than I should give to
Othello and Macbeth.
Take Milton. Milton died in 1674. The copyrights of Milton's
great works would, according to my noble friend's plan, expire in
1699. Comus appeared in 1634, the Paradise Lost in 1668. To
Comus, then, my noble friend would give sixty-five years of
copyright, and to the Paradise Lost only thirty-one years. Is
that reasonable? Comus is a noble poem: but who would rank it
with the Paradise Lost? My plan would give forty-two years both
to the Paradise Lost and to Comus.
Let us pass on from Milton to Dryden. My noble friend would give
more than sixty years of copyright to Dryden's worst works; to
the encomiastic verses on Oliver Cromwell, to the Wild Gallant,
to the Rival Ladies, to other wretched pieces as bad as anything
written by Flecknoe or Settle: but for Theodore and Honoria, for
Tancred and Sigismunda, for Cimon and Iphigenia, for Palamon and
Arcite, for Alexander's Feast, my noble friend thinks a copyright
of twenty-eight years sufficient. Of all Pope's works, that to
which my noble friend would give the largest measure of
protection is the volume of Pastorals, remarkable only as the
production of a boy. Johnson's first work was a Translation of a
Book of Travels in Abyssinia, published in 1735. It was so
poorly executed that in his later years he did not like to hear
it mentioned. Boswell once picked up a copy of it, and told his
friend that he had done so. "Do not talk about it," said
Johnson: "it is a thing to be forgotten." To this performance
my noble friend would give protection during the enormous term of
seventy-five years. To the Lives of the Poets he would give
protection during about thirty years. Well; take Henry Fielding;
it matters not whom I take, but take Fielding. His early works
are read only by the curious, and would not be read even by the
curious, but for the fame which he acquired in the latter part of
his life by works of a very different kind. What is the value of
the Temple Beau, of the Intriguing Chambermaid, of half a dozen
other plays of which few gentlemen have even heard the names?
Yet to these worthless pieces my noble friend would give a term
of copyright longer by more than twenty years than that which he
would give to Tom Jones and Amelia.
Go on to Burke. His little tract, entitled the Vindication of
Natural Society is certainly not without merit; but it would not
be remembered in our days if it did not bear the name of Burke.
To this tract my noble friend would give a copyright of near
seventy years. But to the great work on the French Revolution,
to the Appeal from the New to the Old Whigs, to the letters on
the Regicide Pe